I just re-read the proposal and I don't see an explanation of how
changing the default template makes things harder. If I had a better
understanding of Roller internals, I might get it, but from the proposal
alone, I don't understand.
If you provide details, I'll update the proposal to include them.
Just to be clear: I'm talking about setting the default page to use a
different template, without allowing deletion or renaming of the Weblog
template. (I believe this would be implemented as the ability to write
the "defaultpageid" field of the "website" table)
Would it be possible and/or desirable to re-enable the ability to change
the default without renaming/deleting the required "Weblog" template?
-- Sean
Allen Gilliland wrote:
I will concede that the old way was slightly easier from a UE point of
view, but the point was to gain some leverage technically. We haven't
lost any real functionality and the fact is that most people still just
want their blog homepage to work the way it works by default, so you
represent the exception, not the rule.
From a technical point of view, allowing users to change their default
weblog template was making things harder on us in various ways. The
details are in the proposal that you mentioned.
-- Allen
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 14:08, Sean Gilligan wrote:
That's what I ended up doing, but it seems to me to be less friendly
than the way it worked before. For two reasons:
1) I can't easily change the default template with a pop-up (I have to
edit one template, select all text, copy, edit another, paste, save)
2) It's nice to keep the default template unmodified for comparison
purposes or to switch back if I break something.
I understand the benefit of clearly marking (and enforcing the presence
of) the required templates, but is there any harm in allowing the
default to be changed?
-- Sean
Allen Gilliland wrote:
You can still have a custom homepage, the only requirement is that you
use the template named "Weblog" to represent the homepage for your
blog. So login, edit template "Weblog", and do whatever you want with
it.
-- Allen
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 12:59, Sean Gilligan wrote:
I've noticed an issue (don't know whether to call it a change, bug, or
documentation discrepancy) in Roller 2.1.
It seems you can no longer change the default "page" for your site from
Weblog.vm. It looks like this happened as part of the
"StandardizedTemplates" change:
http://rollerweblogger.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Proposal_StandardizedTemplates
This seems a step backwards in functionality because you can't have a
home page on your "website" that is not a Weblog page. It also requires
you to cut and paste between templates to make a "whole file" change
to your homepage.
Regards,
Sean
Documentation references:
Section 4.1 (Weblog Settings):
Lists the "Page to be used as the homepage" setting (I put a ? here when
I submitted some edits recently)
Section 5.1 (Weblog and day templates) of the manual says:
"Your weblog page is the main page of your web site, the one that is
specified as the default page in your Preferences:Settings page."