On May 5, 2006, at 11:54 PM, Allen Gilliland wrote:
Just a little nit pick, but I think we can find a better way to
describe the extra downloads than "unshippables". Maybe the Roller
"required libraries" and "optional libraries" or something like
that. I think that is a little easier to understand to a first
time user trying to get the files.
That's good feedback.
If you read the Installation Guide you'll see that I explain how to
get the Hibernate and other jars from the original "vendors" and not
from the "Roller Support" project. I *do* reference the Roller
Support project, but I never say specifically that you can getting
all of the missing jars there.
If you read the text on the Roller Support project (a project that is
supposed to be separate and independent from Roller) you'll see that
there are two "unshippable" downloads:
** Webapp Unshippables for Roller - all of the missing files
(Hibernate, JSPWiki, XMLP JavaScript XML parser, etc.) arranged in
Roller webapp directory structure, so that you can just unzip them
ontop of a Roller install.
** Source Code Unshippables for Roller - all of the missing files
(Hibernate, JSPWiki, XMLP JavaScript XML parser, etc.) arranged in
Roller source directory structure, so that you can just unzip them
ontop of a Roller install.
So "required libraries" isn't correct, since the downloads contain
both required and optional files and not just libraries. And
"optional libraries" isn't quite right either.
I considered breaking everything up into separate optional and
required downloads (listed below), but that defeats the purpose of
the unshippables downloads, which is to make installation as easy as
possible. Eventually, I'd like to move the optional parts to the
Roller Support project entirely with build scripts that package them
up as add-ins (and try to make that process easy), but for now, I
think two unshippables downloads is the easier route to support
Roller users.
- Hibernate jars (required)
- EJB 1.1 jar (required at buildtime)
- JSPWiki plugin and jars (optional)
- text-js editor and associated JavaScript classes (optional)
And one other point, perhaps we should have the "unshippables"
discussion on the Roller Support project mailing list, since this is
really not Apache business.
- Dave
-- Allen
Dave Johnson wrote:
I've put together a first release candidate (RC1) for Roller 2.3
and updated the user and installation docs. Please take a look.
Here's a summary of what's available for 2.3:
*What's new*
I updated the Roller 2.3 what's new page to include the 2.2
features and to mention that the release no longer includes the
Hibernate jars, the spell checker and the text-js editor.
http://rollerweblogger.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Roller_2.3_WhatsNew
*The release files*
Roller is now distributed as two files:
1) the webapp download named apache-roller-X.Y-incubating.tar.gz and
2) the source code download named apache-roller-src-X.Y.tar.gz
You can get those files for Roller 2.3 RC1 here:
http://people.apache.org/~snoopdave/roller-2.3-rc/
*The documentation*
I updated the Roller Installation Guide to explain how to get the
missing HIbernate and other jars. The User Guide has also been
updated for 2.3. You can get both of these docs here:
http://people.apache.org/~snoopdave/roller-2.3-rc/
*The Roller Support project*
I'm going to re-purpose Roller's former Java.Net home as the
"Roller Support" project, which will be devoted to supporting
Roller. It will host new plugins, themes and add-ons that we're
not ready to support in Roller or cannot distribute in Roller due
to licensing issues. It also hosts the "unshippables" -- a couple
of downloads helpful when installing Roller.
https://roller.dev.java.net/
