Just to throw in my .02 cents here.

I am fully expecting to EOL the ekit editor and a number of the other Roller editors when I finally get around to adding in support for an entry summary field. Adding the entry summary will require updating all the editors and at that time I plan to trim and consolidate the editors down to 2, maybe 3.

As Dave mentioned, most of the editors are relatively unsupported and therefore should not be included in the default Roller install. We absolutely encourage users to put together their own editors and we will more than likely be happy to commit those editors to the sandbox or some kind of "contributed" directory, but the goal moving forward is to keep the number of fully supported editors to a minimum.

So what I am basically saying is, we love to see move cool editors being developed, but we don't plan to include them in the default Roller install. The idea will be to make them easy to obtain separately and then add them to the default Roller install.

Dave, team, I think this once again echoes the need for us to provide a nice place for Roller addons and mods to be maintained and downloaded as easily as possible. This would be the perfect place to keep things like user contributed editors, themes, and plugins, as well as any code extensions that really aren't needed for a default Roller install.

-- Allen


David M Johnson wrote:
Hi Bill,


On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Tribley William-cwt010 wrote:
Dave,
I am new on the BlogoScene. Roller is cool, thanks for all your work on
it. My clients want a relatively full-featured editor with fonts, tables and
image uploads. BlogJet uploads images, ekit running as an applet locally
should be able to do so as well.

Yes, I agree. Rich text editing is now an expected feature of blog software.
At the moment, the best option we have in Roller is RTE.

Doing image uploads with Ekit alone might be tough.
Normally, applet's don't have pemission to access the file system.
I guess you could work around that by signing the Ekit jars.


Editing is a real nightmare. There are really no good clients out there,
except maybe FireFox's extension. They all have holes. If the table and
image features on ekit worked, believe it or not it stands up well
compared to most of the blog clients out there. I don't like applets,
but that is life I guess....

Really? Do you think Ekit really compares favorable to RTE?
I'm not being sarcastic here. I really want to know the answer.


I am an older developer (i.e. good with databases, perl, basic, some C,
pascal, shell). Trying to learn Java, getting into Ruby on Rails. Is
there something I could do to help testing/integrating of ekit? How do
you debug what is happening when the magic errors are thrown?? At least
it does not crash the browser like really misbehaving applets can.

Normally, to integrate a new editor into Roller all you need to do is to
provide a new JSP page fragment that includes the editor and add it to the
list of editors available on the Roller config page. Somebody with basic
HTML, JavaScript and JSP skills should be able to do that.

Adding file upload to an editor might be more difficult. To do that, you'd
have to do the file upload in the background, get the URL of the uploaded
file somehow and then paste that into the editor. If you want to do that
with Ekit, you'll need more advanced Java/applet coding skills.

- Dave


BTW, every time I say "skills" like that, I'm reminded of Napoleon Dynamite.


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