I use the ITABC ("Intelligent ABC", I think) Simplified Chinese input method editor that comes with OS X. The ITABC system lets you use Latin characters to type in the Pinyin (phonetic) representation of a Chinese glyph - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin

Simple example: "fat" in Chinese is "胖“, which is U+ in Unicode. It's approximately pronounced "pahng" in Mandarin. So I enable the ITABC system, type "pang", press the space bar and several glyphs show up in a little box near the cursor. Then I just select the one I want. ITABC can do more than that, but that's the basic idea.

I like ITABC since I can just type in what I hear, using the Latin keyboard. Some people find that they can type more quickly using other IMEs - the WuBi method for example, which is based on the strokes in a Chinese glyph, is supposed to be very fast.

There are similar IMEs in WIndows XP - I'd bet Linux has them, too.

On Apr 24, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Brian Blakeley wrote:


I saw your blog a little while ago Sean and thought things were looking
go for you.  Thanks for the confirmation!

How did you enter the Chinese characters?  Using the software you
mentioned or cut and paste?

Would be glad to have you take up residence at cheblogs.com if that
meets your needs.


Brian


On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 21:19 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
I just created a blog and posted a quick entry on your site, Brian.
I entered Chinese characters in the blog title, blog subtitle, blog
entry title and the blog entry proper.  Everything showed up exactly
as I typed it, no question marks:

http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/pangmao

The RSS feed looked fine and validated successfully at http://
feedvalidator.org/ and everything looked fine on the Recent Weblog
Entries page.  Very nice!

Pity about JRoller, though. According the the JRoller blog at http://
www.jroller.com/page/jroller they've got a JIRA at http://
jira.javalobby.org, but there's nothing at that URL, so I guess I
won't be reporting this issue...

On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Brian Blakeley wrote:

Sorry for the delay Sean.

I was out of town.  The site is public and free (not for gambling,
porno, or hate sites of course) - so just register for an account and
you are there!


Brian

On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 19:40 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
Hello again Brian,

My apologies for the duplicate responses earlier today - my mail
server hiccuped.

Do you have a test login for your site that I could try?

I'm beginning to wonder if my problems are due to OS X and/or
Safari.  I'd be curious to see what OS's and browsers people are
using to enter Chinese and other glyphs that take two or more bytes
to encode in UTF-8.

Best wishes,

Sean

On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Brian Blakeley wrote:


How about trying your blog with us over at CheBlogs.com/

I think we have the unicode features of roller tuned very well.

Here is an example to consider:

http://www.cheblogs.com/roller/page/xglhc

Although, this seems like a plug, I am really interested in your
feedback, because one of the critical goals for our site is that
it be
internationally friendly.  Roller is a tremendous help is this
goal in
my view.


Brian



On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:11 -0400, Sean Montgomery wrote:
Greetings,

I use Safari under OS X 10.4.6 to access my Roller blog at
www.jroller.com using, well, whatever version of Roller they're
using
today ;-)

I'd like to be able to use Unicode characters in the titles of my
blog entries. If I use OS X's built in Chinese input method editor
to enter a Chinese character in an entry title via the Edit Entry
screen I'll see the correct character show up in the entry listing
(to the right of the Edit Entry screen under Recent Entries) but
all
I get is a '?' when I view the blog.

If I try entering an HTML entity like "胖" into the title
then
I see those seven characters under Recent Entries, but I do see the
correct single (Chinese) character when I view the blog.   The
correct character also shows up in the RSS feed when viewed via
Safari. The trouble comes when I try to view the new entry via the
front page of the JRoller website - it displays "胖"
explicitly.

Sure, I could just blame JRoller ;-)  Instead I pointed
feedvalidator.org at my RSS feed and validated it - they flagged
the
"胖" and gave a warning that the title should not contain
HTML and that I shouldn't be surprised if some viewers strip the
characters or leave them there - like I saw at JRoller.

I've seen Roller blogs that contain entries with titles containing
explicit Unicode characters - I've check out their RSS source
(using
Safari's View:View Source command).  Their RSS feed source, like
mine, contains charset="UTF-8", so that makes sense.

So what am I doing wrong?  It looks like there's no way for me to
input Unicode via the Chinese input method using the existing web-
based Roller interface that JRoller has configured. Is it a
configuration issue? Or do I need to use an alternative method of
posting entries that uses the Blogger or MetaWeblog APIs?

I didn't find anything useful on the Roller user guides and wiki
about this... Any suggestions on where to turn?

谢谢!






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