I'm just trying to provide some entertainment for you oldbies. :) Actually, this mailing list is dying. I haven't seen a CONCEPTUAL discussion in ages. There's not any discussions of how nanny could be redone anymore. There's no discussions of what the better implementation of unlimited bits are. There's no discussion of anything experimental. People write in with their questions about "Hey, I've got THIS problem with THIS code."
The response they get: "Smarten up! You're being dumb!" And as true as this is, in most cases, it's uncalled for. ;) (In my case, it's called for, I was busy reading about compilers and such things when I wrote the email too. :P) Also, I suppose I'm one of those people that comp.lang.c faq talks about.. "The average C programmer tends to want to know too much about the underlying machine code they're producing." ~paraphrased. I don't know... I've been making an active effort to start a discussion about something new, something "exciting." I posted a command interpreter that I wrote from scratch - the comments? "You don't know how to indent." "You used malloc?!?" Now I truly don't care what people think of my indenting style, because I have mine, and you have yours. And as long as mine is uniform it's not that bad. BUT. That's beside the point. Nobody on this list (With the exceptions of Palrich and Sandi Fallon) made any comment on how it worked! And it's not that I was looking for glory - indeed, it's not that elegant. It works. Now, people didn't tell me why I shouldn't use malloc... they just said don't. And I find that many people receive the same treatment. I've been on this list over a year silently watching it's decline. Seriously, most of the questions anymore have to do with "How do I implement this snippet?" Hmph. Nobody wants to write their own snippet! And I will now get off my pedastal and admit that I haven't written any snippets either. But then... I don't have a mud. I don't program for a mud. I'm just interested in programming and the concepts behind a mud. I joined this mailing list because ROM was easier to read than smaug. (I'm on both lists.) ROM's a lot easier to read than smaug... (Well, it was. :P) I've learned alot from just being on this mailing list... but those days are over. I'm going to stay on this mailing list on the off chance that there's going to be someone who comes who wants to discuss the concepts behind how a mud works. Just in case someone wants to be creative and discuss a new way to implement something... ANYTHING. And I'm sure I grow lengthy and boring. And I congratulate those of you who actually made it this far. I also apologize for my seemingly incoherent anger. So on a brighter note... anyone want to discuss the ideas behind any part of ROM? *looks up and notices "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"* I'm probably going to get kicked off this list. *shrug* Hey Brian.. I noticed the b>>5 being found by most compilers just a few minutes after I sent the email. Pity there's no way to "remove email 5" ;) Merry Christmas folks... And happy coding to all, and to all a ... (maybe) good night! Mark _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

