For all not-so-techie guys who want to start building and possibly develop 
ReactOS and for many testers it's important to keep it super-simple, RosBE is 
just so simple anyone can get started and it's not threatning at all. This is 
really important in my opinion. 

I also follow the Contiki OS, they also have a development suite, but it is a 
VMware Player image of the size of more then 2GB To include Ubuntu + build 
tools and utilities, that is heavy and mega crippled.

I also insist on one RosBE including all needed portions of the building 
environment. I also would like to see some util for translators to make that 
easy.

I would like something like RosTE too, a one installation package including a 
Test Environment with VM automatic iso downloader, debug-tools and such.

ReactOS is supposed to be easy, keep it that way.

/Jaix Bly
Jan Blomqvist Kinander

"ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev@reactos.org> wrote on Fri, June 3rd, 2011, 
9:42 AM:
> Zachary Gorden wrote:
> > I object highly to the idea of bundling cmake with the BE.  Most
> > platforms already have binaries built of cmake, either by the distro or
> > for Windows, the people who make cmake provide an installer.
> 
> I don't see the point here, you could say exactly the same about every 
> tool we bundle.
> 
> 
> > We provide the compilers and linkers and we provided rbuildbecause it was 
> > our own
> > thing, but cmake is not and has its own environment.
> 
> There are also easily installable third-party MinGW environments, but 
> this is not the point.
> RosBE started as a project to bundle all build tools (always including 
> GNU Make by the way), even when we didn't need our own specially patched 
> versions yet. This is precisely why ReactOS is one of the easiest 
> operating systems to compile and we can have 5-minute tutorials like 
> this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnt7s2zEZFo
> 
> On top of this, it allows us to have comparable builds between all 
> developers, because we can be sure that they use the very same tools.
> I don't want to spend nights of debugging if problems are suddenly 
> caused by using different CMake versions.
> 
> I'm very reluctant to drop these fundamental ideas behind RosBE. They 
> have certainly saved every ReactOS developer much time.
> 
> 
> - Colin
> 
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