>> but does not explain the cases where we see stuck routes on devices
>> which have no config changes for a loooong time (if you believe
>> rancid).
> 
> Well, in the scenario above, R1 would have the config change, but *on
> R1* the route would be gone.  A downstream router R2 would have seen
> the initial UPDATE, but never received a withdraw - so R2 would claim
> "I have it, and I have it from R1!" while R1 would claim "no such
> prefix".

so, could we look for a router where emile et alia found a stuck route
and we have the rancid for the upstreams?

randy

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