It was a great surprise. Nowadays it's rare to download some tool and not have to download a dozen dependencies for it. Logging via log4j would be cool, but it'd be a dependency and I can live with XmlRpc.debug.
There was a thread a while back about this, and I think Andrew was going to start wiring in commons logging.
I have recently been exposed to using a monitor pattern instead of a logging API, and I think its fantastic. With something like this it would be easy to plug in log4j or logkit or whatever else.
http://wiki.apache.org/avalon/AvalonNoLogging
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