Hi Mouhamet, Badru, others
OK, I think we're starting to talk about differing pools. I suggest
that we clearly label the IANA pool, which as David has confirmed
already has agreed upon policies associated. I am writing here about
the RIR pools and AfriNIC in particular.
On what basis do you determine that AfriNIC (and LACNIC) will gain
more from a shared policy?
I ask this question because it sounds like you think the rate of
return is greater in the other regions, and I am not convinced is the
case. The example that McTim raises of the TENET allocations should
give us a high rate of return over the past few years. Which in turn
should mean that we want to keep these (legacy and swamp space)
addresses for reallocation in Africa. So, what are the rates of
return (by rate I mean: [address space returned over a period of 4
years] / [total address space] measured per RIR)? Only with this data
can you substantiate your point.
Sincerely,
Alan
On 26 Mar 2008, at 6:19 PM, Mouhamet Diop wrote:
I think we should reconsider the question of the Central Pool to
gather
returned IP address space.
The problem of return IP address space is not an African one (our
users are
not ceoncerned), it is for sure an US problem and a solution for new
RIR
like Afrinic and lacnic.
So if the answer is "we should not interfere into that local policy
discussion" , it won't be resolved at all...
Central Pool is a good concept but reallocation policy for the
returned Pool
of Address I sa more important topic to discuss and registry like
AFRINIC
and LACNIC will gained more to have that policy discussed a shared
policy
rather than a policy for each RIR.
So if we want the solution to the IPv4 depletion, the question of the
Central Pool of returned IP address should be considered as central
and not
local.
Regards
Mouhamet Diop
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Objet : RE: [AfriNIC-rpd] IPV4 Depletion issues and implications
Alan
Thanks for the excelent comments, it would be nice if we can hear
from some
more people. By the way the questions are from another fora and i was
curious to gather some ideas a thoughts from the Afrinic community.
You are
right about the cross polination of policy makers but I wonder
whether in a
region like ours where we still have very low participation we might
end up
adopting policys from other regions colonial style as a result of
very low
active/region specific participation.
badru
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Alan Levin
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Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] IPV4 Depletion issues and implications
Hi,
Thanks Badru for posing these questions. I offer some answers that
are my personal opinion only, meant as a straw man. I am no expert and
participate for discussion purposes and learning.
On 26 Mar 2008, at 9:36 AM, Badru Ntege wrote:
1. Should the RIRs jointly undertake policies or practices to
regarding the
depletion of the free pools of the IANA or RIRs?
I think that the answer has to be yes. Is it possible for it to be no?
I don't think that they necessarily need to be uniform policies but
there must be - and already are - such policies, I believe.
a. Should a central pool be created to gather returned IP address
space?
No, I think this should be handled by each RIR.
How should this pool be administered and managed? Should this be
established by an inter-RIR policy?
No, at this stage I think we consider some cases.
b. Is there a deleterious effect caused by the adoption of
differing
transfer policies in some regions that are more liberal than those
that
currently exist in the regions?
This needs to be phrased in plain english but I attempt a response.
I think that there will be a "deleterious effect" if some RIRs are
dictated to by other RIRs. This will basically make things very
difficult as members lose control of their own policy making roles and
responsibilities. So it will be far better to allow each RIR their
own policy, although in my experience there is a sufficient cross
pollination of policy makers to ensure that they are all aligned.
c. Should an inter-RIR policy be developed for the purpose of
conducting transfers of Internet Number Resources between regions?
I think not until we know more.
How is this different from Qu1?
regards
Alan
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