Hi Ron, > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Bonica [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:26 PM > To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri > Cc: Peter Schoenmaker; [email protected]; Routing Research Group > Mailing List > Subject: Re: [GROW] Operational experience with cache based mapping ID > > Hi Dimitri, > > I think that this is a very good outline. > > Someplace in the document, you might want to address failure > modes that > are associated with each cache replacement algorithm and acquisition > technique.
Failure modes and their impact certainly deserve a dedicated section in the document indeed. > The security consideration section should also talk about DoS > attacks and mitigations. The exploration problem is indeed a real issue. The security considerations will be addressed accordingly. Thanks, -dimitri. > Ron > > > PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri wrote: > > Peter, > > > > the below is what I proposed to Bill that launched the thread: > > > > --- > > Section 1: Introduction > > > > Section 2: Motivations and Roles > > > > Section 3: Caching Techniques > > > > Section 3.1: Metrics > > - Hit rate > > - Hit time/Latency > > - Others > > > > Section 3.2: Cache Replacement Algorithms > > - Least Recently Used (LRU) > > - Least Recently Replaced (LRR) > > - Least Frequently Used (LFU) > > > > -> Associativity (Direct mapping, Fully/N-Way/Skewed) > > > > Section 3.4: Acquisition Techniques > > - Push: e.g. BGP > > - Pull: e.g. DNS > > - Hybrid Push-Pull > > > > Section 4: Operational experience > > > > - Structure to be refined per input > > > > Section 5: Conclusions > > > > --- > > > > comments are welcome. > > > > thanks, > > -dimitri. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of Peter Schoenmaker > >> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 12:47 AM > >> To: Ron Bonica > >> Cc: [email protected]; Routing Research Group Mailing List > >> Subject: Re: [GROW] Operational experience with cache > based mapping ID > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> It seems there is interest in this topic. But to move > >> forward we need > >> volunteer(s) to act as the editor. > >> > >> We already have one study > >> <http://inl.info.ucl.ac.be/publications/cost-caching-locatorid > > -mappings > >> > specifically on LISP. There is a request for a study > of existing > >> deployed protocols that use caching, and their operational impacts. > >> > >> Do we have more specifics about the protocols to be studied, > >> and what > >> the paper would contain? > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 24, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Ron Bonica wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Bill, > >>> > >>> Since we are discussing operational experience, I would > >> like to see > >>> the > >>> conversation continue on the GROW list. > >>> > >>> GROW chairs, > >>> > >>> There seems to be interest in this topic. Could you guys appoint a > >>> document editor? > >>> > >>> Ron > >>> > >>> > >>> William Herrin wrote: > >>>> Thanks folks. The question was asked in GROW but it > seems like its > >>>> most directly relevant to the research being done in RRG. > >> I suggest > >>>> we > >>>> move the discussion to one list or the other and > >> periodically give an > >>>> update to both. Does anyone have a preference for which list? > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Bill > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:10 AM, PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> i see value in such effort. ready to help. > >>>>> -d. > >>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of William Herrin > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:17 PM > >>>>>> To: [email protected]; Routing Research Group Mailing List > >>>>>> Subject: [GROW] Operational experience with cache based > >> mapping ID > >>>>>> Hi folks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There was a suggestion at grow this morning that we > >> produce a ID on > >>>>>> operational experience with cache-based mapping systems. > >> Systems > >>>>>> like > >>>>>> the DNS have been very successful. On the other hand, I still > >>>>>> remember > >>>>>> worms sending to random destinations on a 56k modem > >> DOSing a Cisco > >>>>>> 2500 because of the route cache. It would be very helpful to > >>>>>> determine > >>>>>> what factors allow a caching strategy to be successful and what > >>>>>> factors tend to lead to failure. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think this is very relevant to a number of the solution > >>>>>> strategies > >>>>>> under discussion on RRG, not just LISP. So, is anyone else > >>>>>> interested > >>>>>> in organizing the effort? If not, I volunteer. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Bill Herrin > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> William D. Herrin ................ [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >>>>>> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... 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