To anyone who has concerns about the prospect of Ivip being chosen as the most promising proposal for solving the routing scaling problem:
Please collaborate on a 500 word analysis / critique for the RRG Report. I understand from Lixia's msg05558.html that the deadline is Friday 15 January. If possible, please read read the new Ivip-arch-03 ID: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-whittle-ivip-arch-03 The Ivip page links to the IDs and has summaries of 10k, 2k and 1k words and a slightly updated version of the TTR Mobility paper: http://www.firstpr.com.au/ip/ivip/#docs I suggest that anyone who wants to do this mention it on the list and maybe send draft pieces of critique to the list, as a way of encouraging others to add to it or improve on it. I won't respond to these unless I think they are based on a serious misunderstanding. I am hoping that the analysis / critique will have something positive to say about Ivip. However it is more important that contains the major objections *anyone* has to Ivip in as much detail as possible. Quite a few RRG members have objections to any core-edge separation scheme, because they believe core-edge elimination is the way forward. As I wrote: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rrg/current/msg05562.html there are 6 proposals for core-edge elimination schemes: GLI-Split, hIPv4, ILNP, Name-Based Sockets, Name overlay (NOL) and RANGI. Another entry, which isn't really a proposal to solve the scaling problem: "Aggregation with Increasing Scopes" suggests that the long-term solution should be host-based - which probably means core-edge elimination rather than core-edge separation. I think these general objections to core-edge separation schemes should part of the critiques of Ivip and likewise of LISP and TIDR. LISP folks - you must have serious objections to Ivip, otherwise you wouldn't propose LISP-ALT. It would be great if you would return the favour of all my critiques of LISP, read the new Ivip-arch ID and contribute your criticisms. If you don't have time for this, I guess you consider full- database local query servers and/or pushing mapping around the world in a few seconds are impossible or undesirable - so please contribute those objections in as much detail as possible. I am happy to discuss any questions or concerns about Ivip - ideally on the list, or privately by email or phone. - Robin _______________________________________________ rrg mailing list rrg@irtf.org http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg