Hi Toni,

In "Re: [rrg] "Overloading" of Loc & ID functions – Another world is
possible." you wrote:

> There is a way to separate identity from location and still have
> hosts not care much about mapping and resolving. It is by
> integrating resolution and session initiation. The first packet to
> resolve an ID to locator has characteristics relevant to those of
> the first one for session start. So the two can become one and of
> course be handled by the routing system.

but this makes no concrete sense to me.

Locator / Identifier Separation means packets have separate fields
for these, all the way from sending host to receiving host.
Therefore, the hosts are doing different protocols from what they do
today.

Can you give a detailed account of how you propose to have hosts send
and receive packets which have separate Identifiers and Locators for
source and destination, without the delays inherent in looking up
Locators?

Then, for your concrete example, why do you argue that hosts should
do this extra work, rather than new elements in the routing system
such as ITRs, as in LISP, Ivip or (by some other name) IRON?

Does your concrete proposal involve new application protocols, or can
existing protocols work with IP addresses, with the stack somehow
implementing whatever is required so the application can assume that
an IP address is both an Identifier and Locator?  This involves
ensuring that a packet is never received by a host which does not
have the Identity implied by the application's destination IP address.

Does your proposal provide a facility similar to today's anycast and
to round-robin DNS, where one DNS name resolves to multiple IP
addresses, meaning multiple hosts or sets of anycast hosts?

How would your proposal handle multihoming and mobility?

Is there any RRG proposed architecture which matches or resembles
your plan?

If your plan doesn't alter host protocols, then I guess you must be
advocating an entirely network based solution, such as LISP, Ivip or
IRON.  In these, the hosts have no separate notion of Locator and
Identity in their communications - just as is the case today - so it
is wrong to refer to this as Loc/ID Separation.

Also, how would your analysis of the goals and proposed architectures
differ from mine?:

  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rrg/current/msg06219.html


  - Robin
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