Heiner

 

I for one would be very interested to learn about your ideas. 

 

I followed your challenge about following the sequence of arrows (the first 
part of which was to find the right page to look at on your web site!!) - and 
indeed I ended up at the red node. So your approach is devising a Directed 
Acyclic Graph? I worked a bit on the TORA routing protocol, which formed DAGs 
so would be interested to hear how similar /different it is. why are your 
arrows multi-coloured? How does it work when the topology changes? Where's 
there's a choice of next hops, how do you decide which to use? Earlier you said 
that the alternative routes would use different ISPs, how is this reflected in 
the DAG?

You earlier implied that your approach is hierarchical, where does the 
hierarchy come into it? [your red node picture doesn't seem to have a hierarchy]

You mention Rekhter's law: addressing may follow topology or topology may 
follow addressing but choose one. Which one would you choose? Why? Nb at least 
some of the rrg proposals are trying at a high level to do this - splitting 
locator & ID to allow more freedom on how the locators are assigned so that 
they can follow the topology more closely [better aggregatable] and hence 
improve scalability of routing tables. Do you agree?

 

Sorry for all the questions, would be very interested in the answers!

 

Ps I expect you know -  when the EU judges research proposals 'Scientific & 
technical excellence' is worth 1/3rd of the marks, so it's quite possible for 
proposals to score well in this category and still fail. Which can be 
frustrating. Do you have plans to submit a proposal with similar technical 
scope?

 

Thanks

Best wishes

Philip Eardley 

 

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        URL where I can download a text file / HTML page / PDF document /
        whatever? Otherwise, I would not be the only one to think it is purely
        handwaving...

 

I can assure you that this concept (which needs algorithmical computation of 
topologies) is based on what you can see on my website's sample network 
diagram, where all links are converted to arrows. The result may be called 
Multipath Direction Field, or may be called All Links Spanning Tree (ANST). All 
blue arrows form an ALL Nodes Spanning Tree (ANST) which is simply the Dijkstra 
shortest path tree and which is part of the ALST resp. MPDF.

 

The ALST resp. MPDF is just a starter. It  will impact ipfrr as well as the 
more important current RRG-topic, plus more.

 

As to find out whether this is just hot air or not, choose any sequence of 
arrows you like and try not to wind up at the red node. Only if you can 
accomplish this or if you can detect any single loop of arrows, I will 
apologize...

 

Heiner

 

www.hummel-research.de 

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