On 6 Aug 2008, at 16:18, Matt Wynne wrote:

It might help to have a look at the thread that starts here:
http://www.benmabey.com/2008/05/19/imperative-vs-declarative- scenarios-in-user-stories/

Its a subtlety I'm only just getting my head around, but there's a
wealth of useful experience behind these posts.

Thanks Matt (and Ben), that's very helpful.

I'm definitely in the "declarative, token for conversation" camp then. So I would write a scenario for success and one for failure and let my models (and/or controllers) deal with what failure actually means.

Heh, I like this stuff - it's got me enthused about programming in a way that haven't been since I first came across Rails.

B.

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