On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Matt Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it's better to make them separate. Conceptually, the story runner
> slightly confuses the identity of what RSpec is - is it for specifying
> behaviour of individual classes (a la TDD) or is it for specifying the
> behaviour of the whole system? I think the describe / it / should thing is
> powerful enough in its own right as a way to express behaviour of individual
> classes. Coming from writing XUnit tests I absolutely love it - it's such a
> natural way to describe the desired behaviour.
>
> Presumably you might also end up needing something like a Cucumber-Rails
> plugin, or are you envisaging tying Cucumber to rails?
>

Cucumber is not tied to Rails at all - it is  designed to work with
any Ruby code (including JRuby and hopefully soon other Rubies).
However, Cucumber comes with a couple of hooks for Rails, which in
turn have a dependency on RSpec-Rails:

http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/tree/master/lib/cucumber/rails/rspec.rb
http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/tree/master/lib/cucumber/rails/world.rb

When you use Cucumber's generators to set it up in a Rails project (as
described in the README), these hooks are enabled by default.

Aslak

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> On 18 Aug 2008, at 12:11, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Matt Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The RSpec Story runner is likely to be deprecated in favour of the new
>>>> feature runner (temporarily called Cucumber).
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Cucumber-td18876816.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> And this is going to be distributed as a separate plug-in from RSpec?
>>
>> For the time being it is in a separate Git repo. It can be built as a
>> gem and installed as a gem. Rails users can also install it as a
>> plugin.
>>
>> We haven't decided yet whether it will continue to be in a separate
>> repo or added to the RSpec codebase. From a maintenance perspective I
>> think it's easier to keep things separate and small than lump
>> everything together in a big codebase. From a Rails user perspective
>> it means you need to install 3 plugins instead of 2
>> (RSpec+RSpec-Rails+Cucumber).
>>
>> What do you think is the best thing to do?
>>
>> Aslak
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