On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, RB wrote:

>> What is missing is a place to provide things like the rpm package RB
>> offered. Specific files and such. A quick solution could be that I
>> collect such material and place it, without any guarantee and whatsoever
>> support from me, onto the rsyslog download server and offer that
>> directory as a free resource to the community. That would at least
>> ensure that there is a single spot where things can be found by anyone
>> who searches.
>
> Sounds like you need a contrib/ directory, either on your download
> server or included in the releases (or both - releases could include a
> snapshot).  Linking them from explanatory pages in the wiki will only
> serve to help search ranks and generally make everyone happy.  They
> should come with (as you said) a disclaimer that best-effort support
> may be had on the lists/forums, but that they are unofficial and
> therefore not warranted or supported directly by Adiscon.
>
> An alternative would be to allow specific users to upload attachments
> to the wiki and link them from a semi-protected page; not as efficient
> or as easy to moderate/aggregate, but it would certainly be more
> instantaneous.  The 'maintainer' of the given file should additionally
> link to instructions on using the package.
>
> Once a sane package is created, most packaging systems make scripted
> updates rather easy - use sed to update version numbers/checksums, and
> it's good to go.  Gentoo's so easy, all you have to do is re-name the
> package file.  Only when major functionality changes (added binaries,
> configuration options, etc.) should one have to non-trivially touch
> the package.  On that note, the spec file I provided only covers
> limited rsyslog functionality - GSSAPI, rfc3195, RELP, and the
> debugging tools were all left off simply because I didn't have the
> time to build/package their prerequisites.
>
> One last bit: coming from the Gentoo mentality, I'm less interested in
> binary packages and far more in the meta-files used to generate those.
> Others may differ, but that may help the bitrot concern.

I've been using checkinstall to make the packages as I compile them.

it would be handy if rsyslog could include the spec files that it would 
use to create the appropriate packages, but I can understand the 
reluctance to go there.

but if the dependancies are well documented, then creating the appropriate 
file would be pretty easy.

David Lang
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