On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Rainer Gerhards
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:42 AM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013, Rainer Gerhards wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>> I thought out the details of what I have on my mind and think the
>>> solution
>>> can work and support all known use cases. I've also managed to write it
>>> down this morning:
>>>
>>> http://blog.gerhards.net/2013/**10/a-proposal-for-rsyslog-**
>>> state-variables.html<http://blog.gerhards.net/2013/10/a-proposal-for-rsyslog-state-variables.html>
>>>
>>> I would appreciate if you could check it and see how the spec can be
>>> technically broken or identify use cases which it will not be able to
>>> handle.
>>>
>>
>>
>> One case I don't think it can handle is the current work that mmcount is
>> doing.
>>
>>
I have now reviewed what it is doing, including the sample conf that came
with the patch.


> As I understand mmcount, it creates a counter for each appname that it
>> sees, and uses that to count how many times that appname has been seen.
>>
>>
yes, but it does more. It keeps these counts internally and just returns a
single variable that matches the *current* count.

So it is a very specific solution, not something that you can mimic with a
generic state (or global) variable system easily - requires support logic
or further indirection capabilities.


> the fact that you can use $/a!b lets you have the variables without having
>> the conflict with anything else,
>>
>> but you end up with no way to know what variables exist
>>
>> you can't output the entire set of counts without being able to use $/a
>>
>> you can't even lookup the count for the current message's appname without
>> being able to use domething like $a/{$appname}
>>
>>
> you are right, that use case breaks. Thanks! I'll review mmcount in more
> depth now and see how it is actually used.
>
>
So I don't think this is one of the "usual" use cases, but instead a highly
complex one which would require custom logic even if global variables had
worked the way you'd usually expect. In other words: no show stopper.


> The ability to support subtrees can be added, but will be relatively
> expensive.
>
>
Do we actually need subtree access?

Rainer
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