On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Peter Portante <[email protected]>
wrote:

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>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Michael Biebl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 2016-01-27 18:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas D. <[email protected]>:
>> > I am wondering if any major distribution with systemd will install
>> > rsyslog per default or if they use systemd instead. So rsyslog will only
>> > be installed if you require a special setup, not? And if you require a
>> > special setup I am not sure if we can provide a well working hardened
>> > configuration for most users.
>>
>> As I can't look into the future, I'm just talking about the status-quo
>> in Debian:
>> We do install rsyslog by default in our current stable release
>> (Jessie, aka 8.0) and that's still the case for testing/unstable.
>> journald is setup to forward messages to rsyslog (aka. push model)
>
>
> We use imjournal in fedora, rhel, centos, with systemd listening for logs
> on /dev/log and then rsyslog pulling them.
>
> Have you tried that pattern out?
>

what i like about it is that i get lots of other systemd metadata along
with it, which can be quite powerful.

-peter


>
> -peter
>
>
>> and
>> only logs to volatile memory (Storage=volatile [ยน]).
>> We might change that eventually, but atm journal still seems not
>> mature enough for me to enable that by default only.
>>
>> > But we can always provide an example in /usr/share... so users can copy
>> > this file to override the default unit. That's really a nice feature in
>> > systemd.
>>
>> I'd like to ship a default rsyslog configuration which is more
>> restrictive. Not as example, but as default.
>> My train of thought here is that advanced users with special needs,
>> will have to configure rsyslog anyway, including the default systemd
>> service file.
>>
>> But that depends on your feedback. If you think this is a bad idea,
>> just let me know.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journald.conf.html#Storage=
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