William Catlan wrote:
Kenn,

I appreciate the confirmation that the feature works.  I have tried a
number of different ways, including the more granular use of permissions
at the queue level.

Can you share the exact permissions you give to a group to allow them to
assign an owner to a ticket using People -> Owner driop down, as well as
the exact permissions you give to a group to allow them  to be assigned
a ticket?

I think I've tried all reasonable configurations, and it is not working
for me. My version of RT is 3.4.5 ... what version are you running?

Thanks,

Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:21 PM
To: William Catlan
Cc: Ruslan Zakirov; rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Cannot assign ticket

William Catlan wrote:
3.6. Assigning a Ticket

Tickets can have an owner-the user responsible for working on the
ticket or
for coordinating the work. To assign a ticket to someone, go to the
People
form from the ticket display page, and select the user from the Owner
drop-down list, as shown in Figure 3-7. This list contains the
usernames of
all the users allowed to own tickets in the ticket's current queue.

I try this, and only "Nobody" appears as an option.
Grant right OwnTicket to groups/users who should be able to OwnTicket.
http://wiki.bestpractical.com/?OwnTicket

Thanks Ruslan.  Of course, I did grant that right to a group, at both
the Queue and Global levels, along with SeeQueue, but I still could
not
assign a ticket to someone in the group.

I am hoping that someone will confirm this is a bug, or show me
something I missed.

Bill
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Bill,

If you already have a group with the correct permissions to see a ticket (seeQueue, SeeTicket, etc.) for a specific Queue, why in the world do you also grant any global rights at all? The whole point of making a Queue have group specific rights allows much more specific de-bugging when it comes to problems like this,. I think too many users of RT use the "shotgun" approach to granting rights and privileges. GLobal stuff just might be negateing any Queue specific group rights. It's almost like a programmer who isnb't sure he checked for something in his code so he puts the same code that does the checking all over the

progrm. It's redundant and makes everything much more difficult to debug. I think you need to go back to the drawing board on rights and decide how to tighten up the rights by being specific, not global and then see what you get and debug from there. That is how ours is set up and we have 23 Queues (for individual IT software support groups ) and more than twice than many groups (1 group for technical support of an application and 1 group for the user - who get less rights). Plus, we have created an approval workflow that allows for a specific Queue to hande the review/approval/rejection process for several other Queues and

ALL work and documentation stays with the original ticket number, even though the original ticket make be moved to different Queues. This cannot be done when you have a bunch of shotgun/global rights floating around. Hopes this concept helps.

Kenn

Will,

This will take a bit of time to walk thru but, here goes. First, we create a Queue (meaningful name - of course). Someone who is a superuser must do this. Then we set up globally (for each person assigned as the AdminCC of said Queue) one roght only "SeeConfigTab". This allows the AdminCc to administrate his own Queue. We also set up globally for "everyone" all the CreateSavedSearch, EditSavedSearch, etc proviliges.). For global stuff, that's it. Now, create a group and name it for it's function pertaining to the Queue your going to give it rights to, ie. Queuename-Technicians, or Queuename-Support, Queuename-users. By creating groups, you save yourself the redundant effort of setting up individuals with the same rights to the same Queues. So. create a group. Then add some members. Remember, you can have any number of groups with different or the same rights to a Queue. Once you have created the group and populated it, give each group it's own set of priviliges as pertains to A single Queue. So you go into Configuration (the same superuser is doing this), then Queue, pick the Queue, then slip down to group rights (on the lefthand side of the screen) and click that. These rights all pertain to the Queue level only so we give everyone the right to see outgoing mail. Sometimes, depending on the group, we give privilidged user the right to create tickets (most of our Queue administrators don't want that. They want only specific groups to have that right). We don't allow unprivileged users anything. At the Role level (think of a role as a psuedo group) CC's are watchers (we give them seeQueue, seeTicket, ReplyToTicket, and Watch). Requestors are creators of tickets (we give them CreateTicket, if that hasn't been given to all privileged users, all of the CC stuff and maybe let them make or see comments, depending on if they are users or supporter or technicians). AdminCc gets it all except we don't let them create script or templates (we reserve that right for the System Administrator - keeps redundant scripts and stuff off the system). Then there are owners. We consider them the technicians or supports of a Queue so they get more rights as pertains their work (Comment on a ticket, create ticket, delete a ticket, own ticket, modify ticket, take a ticket and all the right given a requestor). Then, we grant a mix of rights to whatever groups we have created that will pertain to the Queue, just like we did with the roles (except, of course, the AdminCc). You can get a list of the rights and stuff on Wiki. I hope this help you figure it out. OH. Also, at the Queue level, we NEVER grant an individual ANY rights. Period. See ya.

Kenn
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