I wasn't aware we were talking about basketball. Sure, someone would have to decide what teams got into a playoff, but let the coaches do it, they know more about it than the computers or sportswriting hacks. I just don't get how anyone could oppose a playoff, like you said someone will get screwed this year but that would be less likely if the coaches chose.
RTR LC --- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dude! You just contradicted the hell out of > yourself! > > How do you think they determine who gets into the > basketball tourney? The > RPI rating (a computer rating system that nobody > really knows how works) and > the ranking in the human polls are the two factors > that a bunch of faceless > people called "the NCAA tournament Selection > Committe" use to decide who > does and who does not get the opportunity to try to > win six more games after > the actual season is over. > > You criticise computers and "sports writing hacks" > yet that is precisely > who/what would stand at the gates of any playoff and > deem worthiness of > admission. > > Championships should indeed be won on the field > which is exactly the > argument AGAINST playoffs. A 2 or 3 loss team has > absolutely no right > whatsoever to whine about not being allowed to play > for any title because > you know what, they didn't win it on the field. They > didn't take care of > business. Screw them! They should have won their > friggin' games during the > season and the point would be moot. > > Screw LSU, USC and Oklahoma. One of them will get > screwed and should. > > - Oklahoma had a chance to waltz into the Sugar bowl > and blew by losing to a > 3 loss KSU team. > - LSU had a chance for an undefeated season and > certain trip to the Sugar > Bowl and blew it by losing to Florida. > - USC had a chance for an undefeated season and > certain trip to the Sugar > Bowl and blew it by losing to Cal. > > > If you want to win a championship - win it! Don't > whine about it. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Steven Johnson > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 11:47 AM > >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > >It is more of a legitimate champion than letting > >computers and sports writing hacks decide who they > >think should be there. You have to win games in > order > >to be a champion, and if some team gets hot and > beats > >you, that's your problem. Championships should be > won > >on the field, not on some nerds computer. > > > >RTR > >LC > >--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The "legitimate" champion argument is hogwash. > >> > >> It does not produce a "legitimate" SEASON > champion. > >> The NCAA basketball > >> tourney produces a legitimate tournament champion > >> which means that it > >> totally throws out the season and starts over. > The > >> team that can put 6 wins > >> together at the END of the season is crowned > >> champion and the season itself > >> is relegated to second fiddle. B-ball season > sucks. > >> Hell, it's been going on > >> for 3 weeks and most of us could care less > because > >> we don't start getting > >> interested until the end of the season. I hate > >> basketball season and I don't > >> want football season to end up the same way. > Words > >> like "legitimate" and > >> "mythical" are nice little sound bites, but > that's > >> all they all they are and > >> carry no weight. > >> > >> Just say "no" to playoffs. > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Behalf Of Joe Goodson > >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:43 AM > >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > Athletics > >> Discussion List > >> >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > >> > > >> > > >> >Screw the bowl tradition. Even highschool and > >> peewee leagues have a > >> >LEGITIMATE champion. Anyting other than a > playoff > >> crowns a mythical > >> >champion. Roundball March Madness generates > more > >> interest than the bowl > >> >games because it is a legitimate tournament > which > >> produces a legitimate > >> >champion. > >> > > >> >MORE FOOTBALL! > >> >Joe > >> > > >> >"We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in > the > >> world, and I love > >> >every one of them, but they're not tough enough. > If > >> we don't get some > >> >sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not > >> going to beat anybody." - > >> >Alabama legend Bear Bryant. > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > >> Athletics Discussion List" > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:19 AM > >> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > >> > > >> > > >> >> Now you're talking! I'm a traditionalist. > >> >> > >> >> A playoff takes the emphasis totally away from > >> the season and 1 or 2 > >> >losses > >> >> during the season mean absolutely NOTHING > anymore > >> because all > >> >that matters > >> >> is getting into the playoffs, just like > >> basketball season now, which > >> >> abso-fucking-lutely sucks. The tournament is > >> semi-fun, but the season is > >> >> almost a meaningless warm-up to the tourney. > >> >> > >> >> Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system > >> where the SEC champ goes to > >> >> the Sugar bowl and we all get to argue forever > >> about who the national > >> >champ > >> >> is, not some silly tourney champion where a 2 > or > >> 3-loss team can get hot > >> >and > >> >> beat an undefeated team, then get named "NCAA > >> Playoff Champion" but we > >> >would > >> >> all know that they got their asses whipped > during > >> the season and aren't > >> >the > >> >> national champs at all, but instead just a > team > >> that got hot at > >> >the end of > >> >> the season, like oh say, maybe um KANSAS > FUCKING > >> STATE. > >> >> > >> >> A playoff sucks. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >Behalf Of Jamie Watts > >> >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:02 AM > >> >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > >> Athletics Discussion List > >> >> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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