Does that mean we agree? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:03 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
I've stayed out of this as long as I can. I received NO student loans, grants, etc. to attend college; my parents earned too much money.(yeah, right) But Dub and Earl could have gone to school for free since they lived in poverty. Instead, they decided to retread tires for a living @ 5.00/hr. Now I am supposed to feel sorry for them? If you are poor and can't support yourself: A) you yourself made poor career/education choices. B) you should not have a house full of children that taxpayers now have to clothe, feed AND educate. My conscience is completely clear. Sonja > > From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/04/08 Thu AM 08:17:49 EDT > To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > > I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of > them bridges built to those less fortunate. > > Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in Federal > Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention > how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach. > Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the > education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact > dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the > shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran > accordingly, we are in store for more of the same. > > As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have that > choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your > kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most > people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated > better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me if > you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free' > education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what is > taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move, send > them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach > little Jimmy the A,B,C's. > > For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are going > to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their kids > to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight > ends. > > (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where American > troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in houses > that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how much > a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no > electricity, water or roof?) > > And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If that > isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee smells > that way???:) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Joe Goodson > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? > > > Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build > > schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while there > > are schools in THIS country that don't have enough > > money\space\teachers\supplies\etc. > > Whoa!!! I know you didn't just say / type that. Consider this. Throwing > money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse. > Consider poverty. We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies and > viola! More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families! > Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic. Keep throwing money at them and > see what you get. > > So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend in > federal dollars on each student every year. You know, about 25% of the > middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map? Can you > believe that? It is not due to a lack of money. It is due to a federal > plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e.. "Heather > has Two Mommies" and other such crap. If you have a class of 25 students at > $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00. After you pay a > teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00. WTF happens to all that > cash? And that is just from ONE classroom. Multiply the school population > by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of > idiots that have to take remedial math courses upon signing up for college. > They don't even teach History like they used to. Face it, the federal > government needs to give Americans school vouchers so that they can choose > what kind of education their children receive. > > > > Not to mention the millions of people who can't afford health care; who > > can't find decent housing; who don't have running water. > > OH puhlease! Do you actually think that there are MILLIONS of people in > America without running water in their house? > > Joe > > There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be > withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness. If we > desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure > peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it > must be known that we are at all times ready for war. > > - George Washington, Annual Message, December 1793 > > > > ______________________________________________________ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > ______________________________________________________ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > ______________________________________________________ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" 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