Hi Mahesh,

Thanks for that update. I've now moved all 3 documents towards the RFC
Editor.

Thanks,
Ketan


On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 4:52 PM Mahesh Jethanandani <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Reshad/Ketan,
>
> I have posted -36 version of the optimizing-auth draft to address nits
> found in -35 version of the draft.
>
> With this submission, I believe we are done with all the changes we wanted
> to submit for both stabiliy and the optimizing-auth draft.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Nov 11, 2025, at 9:00 AM, Rahman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Ketan,
>
> BFD-stability was updated last week. I need to check for optimizing-auth
> but not at home right now.
>
> Regards,
> Reshad.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 11, 2025, at 11:34 AM, Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Reshad,
>
> IIRC there was an update rev pending on the optimizing-auth draft and also
> perhaps a minor update on the stability. I might be wrong, but can Mahesh
> and Jeff check/confirm?
>
> I'll push them off to the RFC editor as a set once I get the green signal
> from the authors.
>
> Thanks,
> Ketan
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 1:44 PM Reshad Rahman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No concerns or objections have been expressed on the latest revisions of
>> these 3 documents. Ketan, please ship them!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Reshad.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 30, 2025 at 05:33:59 PM EDT, Mahesh Jethanandani <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Reshad. Since we made additional changes to the stability draft,
>> I have attached here the diffs that include those changes. The updated
>> draft with all these changes will be posted once the datatracker opens up
>> for I-D submission.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2025, at 8:54 AM, Reshad Rahman <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Jeff. And to all authors for addressing the multiple comments
>> from IESG review.
>>
>> Summarizing the main changes for the WG (authors please correct me if I'm
>> misrepresenting/missing anything)
>> 1) draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication (see diffs
>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-26&url2=draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-35&difftype=--html>
>> )
>>   - Major terminology change: removal of strong authentication. Instead
>> More/Less Computationally Intensive is used.
>>   - Text modifications/movement to better justify the need for this work
>> e.g the security considerations section.
>>
>> 2) draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers (see diffs
>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers-22&url2=draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers-27&difftype=--html>
>> )
>>   - Use of new terminology mentioned above
>>   - Clarification for meticulous keyed (section 1.1)
>>   - Updated rationale for use of ISAAC
>>   - Beefed up security section
>>   - New sub-section on "random number considerations"
>>
>> 3) draft-ietf-bfd-stability (see diffs
>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-bfd-stability-19&url2=draft-ietf-bfd-stability-20&difftype=--html>
>> )
>>   - Mostly editorial/clarification changes
>>
>> Regards,
>> Reshad.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 29, 2025 at 12:03:41 PM EDT, Jeffrey Haas <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> BFD Working Group,
>>
>> Reshad is temporarily unavailable so I am kicking this off in his stead.
>>
>> As our AD, Ketan, notes below, the three BFD authentication documents
>> have undergone substantive bits of rewrite in addressing IESG review.
>> Please review the updates to the drafts and state any concerns or
>> objections you might have to progressing the documents in their current
>> form.
>>
>> Since the work is readily reviewable via the diff functionality in the
>> datatracker, let's make the end of this objection poll conclude at the
>> finish of IETF 124.
>>
>> If there is any concern that this review period is too short given how
>> busy IETF week often is, feel free to respond either to the chairs, or
>> Ketan, and we'll happily extend the length of this poll.  That said, I'm
>> optimistic (and I'm not known for such) that this probably will be fine.
>>
>> Note that since I've become deeply involved in the author and editing
>> process of these documents over their lifetime, Reshad is the arbiter for
>> this poll. It was important to kick this off ASAP to provide maximum review
>> opportunity.
>>
>> -- Jeff
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
>> *Subject: **Status of 3 BFD documents in IESG Evaluation*
>> *Date: *October 27, 2025 at 3:51:31 AM EDT
>> *To: *Reshad Rehman <[email protected]>, Reshad Rahman <
>> [email protected]>, [email protected],
>> [email protected],
>> [email protected]
>> *Cc: *"rtg-bfd@ietf. org" <[email protected]>
>>
>> Hello Authors and Reshad (as the shepherding co-chair),
>>
>> All 3 BFD documents are now ready for approval following IESG evaluation
>> (with some abstain positions) and I would like to share their individual
>> status and some comments before I can take the next steps.
>>
>> 1) draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication
>> a) There is a warning in the YANG module that needs to be fixed?
>> b) I believe the reference to draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers
>> should be informative and not normative?
>> c) Reshad, since the document has undergone significant changes, it would
>> be good to poll the WG to review the latest version to ensure there are no
>> objections and consensus is still there to publish.
>>
>> 2) draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers
>> a) Reshad, since the document has undergone significant changes, it would
>> be good to poll the WG to review the latest version to ensure there are no
>> objections and consensus is still there to publish.
>>
>> 3) draft-ietf-bfd-stability
>> a) This document is pending updates and responses to several comments
>> raised by the IESG.
>> Authors need to take actions for the following threads:
>> - Eric V's comments :
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/NojkOgcMgmG63jwwOZDVs6F3jCA/
>> - Med's comments :
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/RnsdDfptWEmHWLEb9dWijYVqii4/
>> - Gunter's comments :
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/Af-fvNF0oJ_w-kvbDfL_yaJyTGE/
>> - Gorry's comments:
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/-VyzPmoV65rCDZAFnDgk9sXJChw/
>> - Mirja's comments from TSVART review:
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/JsqoFqNdmH-OwU_anOB0mgrXaBU/
>> - Deb's comments (look at the ballot) :
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-stability/ballot/#draft-ietf-bfd-stability_deb-cooley
>> - Les's comments from IANA DE review :
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/PGNSrFq8st7SkeH1gqKaHHXUClg/
>> b) Reshad, post the closure of the above comments and document updates,
>> this document would also require a poll of the WG to review the latest
>> version to ensure there are no objections and consensus is still there to
>> publish.
>>
>> While these documents were sent to me for processing as a set, I could
>> send (1) and (2) to the RFC Editor without waiting for (3). Please let me
>> know if the WG wishes for me to hold up all 3 documents.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ketan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mahesh Jethanandani
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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