Hi Greg,

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

De : Greg Mirsky [mailto:[email protected]]
Envoyé : mardi 18 juin 2019 01:21
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN
Cc : [email protected]; RTGWG; 
[email protected]
Objet : Re: Questions regarding the 
draft-wu-model-driven-management-virtualization

Hi Med,
much appreciate your kind consideration of my comments, detailed responses to 
all questions. Few followup notes in-line tagged GIM2>>.

Regards,
Greg

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:22 PM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Greg,

Thank you for the comments.

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

De : Greg Mirsky [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Envoyé : mardi 9 avril 2019 15:33
À : 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;
 RTGWG
Objet : Questions regarding the draft-wu-model-driven-management-virtualization

Dear Authors,
I have some questions related to OAM aspect of service and network management 
automation and much appreciate your consideration:

  *   I couldn't find Networking Working Group to which the draft seems to be 
attributed. In your opinion, in which of IETF WGs you see this work to be the 
most relevant?
[Med] OPSAWG is a candidate target.

  *   I couldn't find any reference to the process of Sevice Activation Testing 
(SAT) in the document. Are you planning to cover it later or see the absence of 
any SAT work at IETF as an obstacle to completing the closed-loop lifecycle for 
a service?
[Med] We do explicitly refer to:
   o  Dynamic feedback mechanisms that are meant to assess how
      efficiently a given policy (or a set thereof) is enforced from a
      service fulfillment and assurance perspective.
Models that fall under that item can be listed, if any.

  *   Figure in Section 3 "Network Service and Resource Models" refers to OAM 
and PM separately. Do you see PM not being part of overall OAM toolset?
[Med] It is part of OAM. A better name could be used. That’ said, the intent 
was to cover connectivity check matters separately from PM.
GIM2>> I'd propose to use "Fault Management OAM". Continuity Check and 
Connectivity Verification tools usually viewed as part of a Fault Management 
OAM toolset. These tools can further be characterized as proactive or on-demand 
(some may be used in both modes). An example of the former in IETF is, clearly, 
BFD, and in the latter group are all variances of echo request/reply method.
[Med] FM is better indeed.

  *   in Section 3.1.2 in regard to LIME models, you've stated: "These three 
models can be used to provide consistent reporting, configuration and 
representation." Do you have evidence in support of this statement?
[Med] That is what the lime effort was about; hence the “can”.
GIM2>> Without the evidence of its use (I recall that the LIME WG published 
three models) I'd use less assertive language. Perhaps "may be" or "is intended 
to".
[Med] “is intended to” works for me. Will be fixed in the next iteration.

  *   Figure 2 lists BFD, LSP Ping, and MPLS-TP models under OAM. In your 
opinion, are these three models sufficient to perform 'F' and 'P' of FCAPS 
network management, i.e., Fault Management and Performance Monitoring, 
adequately? (Should note that LSP Ping and MPLS-TP YANG models are only 
individual drafts);
[Med] Obviously, that list is not exhaustive.
Regards,
Greg
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