Hi Gyan, folks,

Thank you for your suggestions! Besides the guiding slides for the solution 
discussions, we will also have a set of slides for the problem statement to 
clarify the WHY.

According to the feedback we have received so far, we have updated the main 
drafts to sync the information.


The main changes we have made to the drafts are as follows:

1. Removed the application-side solution, only keep the network-side solution

2. The APN attribute is acquired based on the existing information in the 
packet header such as 5-tuple and QinQ (S-VLAN and C-VLAN) at the edge devices 
of the APN domain, added to the data packets along with the tunnel 
encapsulation.

3. When the packets leave the APN domain, the attribute will be removed 
together with the tunnel encapsulation header.

4. APN aims to apply various policies in different nodes along a network path 
onto a traffic flow altogether, for example, at the headend to steer into 
corresponding path, at the midpoint to collect corresponding performance 
measurement data, and at the service function to execute particular policies.



https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-apn-framework-03

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-apn-problem-statement-usecases-02

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-02

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-security-privacy-consideration-01

Your reviews and comments are very welcomed. Thank you!

Best regards,
Shuping

From: Apn [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gyan Mishra
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 6:39 AM
To: Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; 6MAN <[email protected]>; Routing Area Working Group 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Apn] FW: Application-Aware Networking (APN) focused interim


Hi Shuping & APN WG

I agree as well that the agenda looks good and many thanks to the RTGWG for 
providing a time slot to host the discussion.

I support the basic concept of the gap APN is trying to solve and provide fine 
grain SLA for primary use case of 5G network slicing.

Traditionally and historically customer SLA been provided using Diffserv QOS 
Marking and PHB scheduling as well as customer application layer SLA using RSVP 
TE class or path based tunnel selection DS TE RFC 4124 and RFC 3270 MPLS 
Diffserv uniform and pipe mode explicit null framework to meet customer SLA 
requirements.  Also ALTO / SDN PCE / PCE CC based network based application 
flow optimizations of flows as well as ACTN abstraction framework for underlay 
path resource provisioning.

As an agenda item I think it maybe a good idea to briefly touch on the problem 
statement and the gap that requires a solution based on  existing technologies 
and solutions that exist today.

Also applicability of the APN ID fine grain SLA for 5G network slicing, DETNET, 
SD WAN as well as any other use cases.

As we have discussed caveats and complexity related to host to network 
signaling that it makes sense to update the existing drafts to reflect 
application edge CE based network marking of the APN ID.   Also, as the APN ID 
marking as we have discussed will change  to network layer marking on the 
application edge CE, how does the marking closely or not resemble the VTN ID 
marking in the data packet for VPN+ E2E network slicing.

This will help facilitate the discussion so we don’t get stuck on the 
complexity of host to network signaling.

Kind Regards

Gyan


On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 8:55 PM Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear all,

The APN Interim meeting has been scheduled on June 3rd. Please find the meeting 
information shared by the Chairs of the RTG WG below.

In this APN Interim meeting, we are going to focus more on the discussions of 
the solutions (more overview than details), including
1.       the design of the APN attribute itself
2.       the encapsulation of the APN attribute on the various data planes (the 
encapsulation on the IPv6 data plane is an example)
3.       the control plane protocols extensions for exchanging the APN attribute
4.       NETCONF/YANG models for the NBI and SBI

You are very welcomed to join the discussions, and your comments and 
suggestions are very much appreciated.

Thank you!

Best regards,
Shuping



From: rtgwg [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On 
Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 6:38 AM
To: Routing WG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; RTGWG 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Application-Aware Networking (APN) focused interim

Dear RTGWG,

We have scheduled Application-Aware Networking (APN) focused interim (agenda to 
be published), June 3rd, 2021, 7:00AM PST

Looking forward to seeing you,

Cheers,
Jeff and Chris




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