Hi Hesham,

We did have a paper, outlining a vision on semantic routing and networking but 
wanted to select work more directly related to ongoing IETF work, also after 
being advised on the semantic routing work to provide more concrete works 
beyond vision and concepts.

The on/off paper, (third presented next week, represents such aspect, 
evaluating the use of compute information in various traffic steering 
models/systems. In a way, you can see this as ‘semantic networking’ in the 
wider sense.

I hope this explains and aligns with my takeaway from the interim discussions.

Best,

Dirk

From: Hesham ElBakoury <[email protected]>
Sent: 31 October 2022 10:31
To: Dirk Trossen <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sidemeeting on selected routing papers

Hi Dirk,
The side meeting does not include FIRA papers that are related to semantic 
routing and networking?


Thanks
Hesham

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 2:12 AM Dirk Trossen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Dear all,

This year’s ACM SIGCOMM conference saw the first workshop on Future of Internet 
Routing and Addressing (FIRA) with a range of interesting papers that covered 
various routing-related problems and innovations. You can find the program of 
the workshop at https://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2022/workshop-fira.html 
with links to all presentations given, including the keynotes.

One of the motivations for organizing the workshop was to bring various 
communities together that are interested in and driven by routing innovations. 
Naturally, the IETF is one of these communities, specifically those 
participating in the RTG WG and the routing area as a whole.

For this reason, we decided to organize a sidemeeting at the upcoming IETF115 
to bring some of those research works to those interested and participating at 
the IETF. We have not limited our selection to the FIRA workshop only, as you 
will see below.

The side meeting will take place on Wednesday 9th, starting at around 6.15pm 
(to give people time to walk over) and will take place in Richmond 6. We plan 
on finishing at 7.45pm with the possibility to stay on until 8pm.

On the side meeting wiki (at https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/115/sidemeetings), 
you will find the meeting link information for remote participation. The 
meeting with be chaired by Prof. Jon Crowcroft (Cambridge University), one of 
our FIRA workshop SC chairs and long-term IETF contributors, as many of you 
know.

As for agenda, we have prepared the following for you:
6.15pm – 6.20pm: Introduction and Motivation of the side meeting (Jon Crowcroft)
6.20pm – 6-45pm: Hard Lessons for ICN from IP Multicast? (Jon Crowcroft), 
providing insights into lessons learned from IP multicast in order to move 
forward with new multicast solutions such as ICN.
6.45pm – 7.10pm: A first step towards checking BGP routes in the dataplane 
(Thomas Wirtgen, UC Louvain), suggesting dataplane methods for BGP route 
verification
7.10pm – 7.35pm: On-path vs off-path traffic steering, that is the question 
(Dirk Trossen, Huawei), comparing the realization of compute-aware traffic 
steering method through off-path vs on-path solutions.
7.35pm – 7.45pm: General Discussion

Each presentation will be 20 minutes plus a 5 minutes slot for immediate 
questions, while we provide time after all presentation for discussion and 
questions across.

It would be great to see many of you at this sidemeeting and hope that the 
presented work will indeed be of interest to you and your work.

Please feel free to forward this email to anybody who may be interested to 
attend!

Best,

Dirk
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