Hi Russ,

Thank you for these comments, and see below for discussion:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Housley via Datatracker <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2025 8:44 AM
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> Subject: [rtgwg] draft-ietf-rtgwg-atn-bgp-28 early Secdir review
> 
> Document: draft-ietf-rtgwg-atn-bgp
> Title: A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical 
> Telecommunications Network
> Reviewer: Russ Housley
> Review result: Has Issues
> 
> I reviewed this document as part of the Security Directorate's ongoing
> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
> comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Security Area
> Directors.  Document authors, document editors, and WG chairs should
> treat these comments just like any other IETF Last Call comments.
> 
> Document: draft-ietf-rtgwg-atn-bgp-28
> Reviewer: Russ Housley
> Review Date: 2025-09-16
> Review Due: 2025-09-22
> IETF LC End Date: Unknown
> IESG Telechat date: Unknown
> 
> 
> Summary: Has Issues
> 
> 
> Major Concerns:
> 
> Section 3 says that ASNs will be allocated and managed by an ATN/IPS
> assigned numbers authority established by ICAO.  Will this authority
> operate an RPKI?  If so, it should be discussed here or in Section 10.

This text is old and perhaps overcome by inertia; I am not aware of any efforts
by ICAO to establish an assigned numbers authority for ASNs nor to operate an
RPKI. Instead, I would like to re-factor the text to advocate for ASN 
allocations
per standard Internetworking practices the same as for any Internet autonomous
system BGP routers. Would something like that be acceptable?

> Minor Concerns:
> 
> Section 1 talks about "secured direct point-to-point links and/or
> secured tunnels".  Please say what you mean by secured.  Based on the
> discussion in Section 10, you expecting confidentiality, integrity, and
> authentication.  MACsec is not a point-to-point link, but is seems that
> it would meet the needs of this architecture.  Is MACsec accommodated?

For secured tunnels, the document references IPsec as an example securing
service, but I don't mind making that mandatory by removing the "e.g.";
would mandating IPsec for secured tunnels be useful. For secured direct
point-to-point links the intention was that these would be subject to
physical security but I don't mind also employing a higher layer service
like MACsec to provide multiple layers of security. Is there a reference
for MACsec that the document could cite?

> Nits:
> 
> Section 1: s/aviation data link they/aviation data link, they/
> 
> Section 1: s/Stable Network Prefixes SNPs/Stable Network Prefixes (SNPs)/
> 
> Section 3: s/Since ATN/ATN/
> 
> Section 4: s/WiFi/Wi-Fi/
> 
> Section 5: s/In the first figure/In Figure 5/
> 
> Section 5: s/In the second figure/In Figure 6/

Yes, these are all good catches and will be corrected in the next document 
version.

Thank you - Fred Templin

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