Hmmmmm, I have inquired about newer kernel patches in the past (somewhere around 2.4.14). The response was, that the kernel was not yet stable enough to warrant the effort. This made really good sense, since at the time the kernel was still undergoing major changes. However the last several revisions have indeed been stable - my point being...
I would be willing to bet that an "official patch" is probably forthcoming. Further, antagonism is probably NOT the best way to request help. I doubt that Victor, is really out to make a business of this (he would have priced it MUCH higher if this were the case - competing solutions, such as RTX cost thousands in licensing fees). Meanwhile, my UP patch for 2.4.16 works quite nicely... Regards, Todd Gearheart -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Alvarez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [rtl] OpenRTLinux, patches, and its future. Hi all, I am afraid that Victor's was not a very informative response, and most people don't read the advocacy list. So here are my two cents: The GPL license applies to what fsmlabs now calls OpenRTLinux, and anything derived from it. fsmlabs specifically excluded/separated RTLinux Pro from the GPL license, and can (and will) continue to develop that and (they hope) get paid for it. Victor has often commented on this list that the GPL model requires an active community of developers. The implication is that FSM is not really interested anymore in improving OpenRTLinux, although they may continue to distribute it and maintain the lists, and it is up to us, the users, to make any improvements we think are needed, such as upgrades to more recent kernels. :-) Warning: advocacy coming! :-) In my opinion, this is not going to work: for the GPL model to work, there needs to be not just a user community, but a centralized maintainer/developer (person or group) who is responsible for deciding what goes in, what doesn't, and who either does much of the work or distributes it out. That was the role that Victor et al. could be playing, but they don't want to because they are trying to make a business of it. I don't see anybody else playing that role, and I think that means the future of OpenRTLinux is bleak. I would be interested in other people's opinions. I am crossposting to rtl-advocacy, and I think the discussion probably should move there. Pablo Alvarez On Thursday 28 March 2002 08:39, you wrote: > Advocacy, especially advocacy constructed of nonsense is not > acceptable on this list. > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 09:25:15AM +0000, Richard Reeve wrote: > > I think RTAI is the solution really. I made the mistake of going with > > RTLinux in the first place because it was better advertised, the only > > problem is finding the time to deal with the changeover. As far as I > > understand there are newer patches for the kernel that fsmlabs won't > > release to us (I would have thought that that was explicitly illegal > > under the kernel's gpl), as they want to make money off them, but I > > may be way off there. Understandable, but the problem for me is as > > that a university researcher trying to get one robot to talk to one > > computer, the only way I could afford the paid version is out of my > > own pocket - not very tempting. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard Reeve. > -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl <Your_email>" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/ -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl <Your_email>" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/
