Hi all,

I am afraid that Victor's was not a very informative response, and most 
people don't read the advocacy list. So here are my two cents:

The GPL license applies to what fsmlabs now calls OpenRTLinux, and anything 
derived from it. fsmlabs specifically excluded/separated RTLinux Pro from the 
GPL license, and can (and will) continue to develop that and (they hope) get 
paid for it.

Victor has often commented on this list that the GPL model requires an active 
community of developers. The implication is that FSM is not really interested 
anymore in improving OpenRTLinux, although they may continue to distribute 
it and maintain the lists, and it is up to us, the users, to make any 
improvements we think are needed, such as upgrades to more recent kernels.

:-) Warning: advocacy coming! :-)
In my opinion, this is not going to work: for the GPL model to work, there 
needs to be not just a user community, but a centralized maintainer/developer 
(person or group) who is responsible for deciding what goes in, what doesn't, 
and who either does much of the work or distributes it out. That was the role 
that Victor et al. could be playing, but they don't want to because they are 
trying to make a business of it. I don't see anybody else playing that role, 
and I think that means the future of OpenRTLinux is bleak.

I would be interested in other people's opinions. I am crossposting to 
rtl-advocacy, and I think the discussion probably should move there.

Pablo Alvarez

On Thursday 28 March 2002 08:39, you wrote:
> Advocacy, especially advocacy constructed of nonsense is not
> acceptable on this list. 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 09:25:15AM +0000, Richard Reeve wrote:
> > I think RTAI is the solution really. I made the mistake of going with
> > RTLinux in the first place because it was better advertised, the only
> > problem is finding the time to deal with the changeover. As far as I
> > understand there are newer patches for the kernel that fsmlabs won't
> > release to us (I would have thought that that was explicitly illegal
> > under the kernel's gpl), as they want to make money off them, but I
> > may be way off there. Understandable, but the problem for me is as
> > that a university researcher trying to get one robot to talk to one
> > computer, the only way I could afford the paid version is out of my
> > own pocket - not very tempting.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Richard Reeve.
>
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