It is convention over configuration, not convention instead of
configuration.
How are we supposed to learn how to configure it?
Em 08-02-2013 17:07, Rafael Mendonça França escreveu:
Although I agree it is a nice addition, our guides are more about the
conventions. This is configuration.
As everyone know Rails is conventions over configurations. So I prefer
to leave it outside our guides.
Rafael Mendonça França
http://twitter.com/rafaelfranca
https://github.com/rafaelfranca
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
<rr.ro...@gmail.com <mailto:rr.ro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I wouldn't mention just ActionView. I believe this approach is
used by all major pieces in rails repository, like AR, ActionPack
and the like with the exception being AS.
The guide would be something like:
---
"Using Rails components outside Rails" (In some Advanced topics)
Sometimes you may want to rely on parts of Rails pieces in your
own code. Maybe you're writing unit tests or maybe you are not
using Rails at all (another web framework or the application is
not a web one at all).
Still you might be interested on formatting numbers or currency in
your code (ActionView::Helpers::NumberHelper), use ActiveRecord,
ActiveModel or some other components you might be interested on.
Rails follows a few conventions you should be aware of if you want
to try those components outside of the Rails context.
Since most Rails components make extensive use of some core
extensions added by ActiveSupport, they're commonly included
('active_support/rails') in the entry point of those frameworks.
For instance, if you want to use some part of ActionView you
should require the entire ActionView component instead of only the
specific part you want. That is because the specific parts may not
declare all dependencies on their own files since they were
already declared in the entry point of those components.
This avoids requiring all those common files over and over but you
have to be aware that it means you have to load the entire
component and not just part of it.
So, if you want to use ActionView::Helpers::NumberHelper, please
be sure you require 'action_view' instead of
'action_view/helpers/number_helper'.
The same is true for all other components except ActiveSupport who
always have explicit dependencies on each file it contains.
---
This is basically what I was proposing.
Best,
Rodrigo.
Em 08-02-2013 16:36, Rafael Mendonça França escreveu:
Accepted too.
About the subject, I think we had a guide or a topic in some
guide about how to use Action View outside Rails. I'm not 100%
sure but if this guide/section existed we reverted it since we
thought doesn't make sense to leave it as official documentation
since it is too advanced and talks more about the Rails internals
and how it is implemented, not about how it is used.
I know is hard to understand the Rails internals but I don't
think there are more that we can do that try to answers the
people questions.
Rafael Mendonça França
http://twitter.com/rafaelfranca
https://github.com/rafaelfranca
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
<rr.ro...@gmail.com <mailto:rr.ro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I was planning to send a particular message to Xavier about
that but it seems he was not the only one offended.
I'd like to apologize about that and I simply forgot to
remove that particular opinion from the message. I just
copied and pasted my solution and forgot I had written that
along the other lines.
It wasn't my intention to publicly offend any of you. I
should have re-read my message and removed that "stupid"
piece from it if I have noticed it there.
It was intended to be kept only in my private repository as
my particular opinion on the subject.
It wasn't meant to offend any of you.
So sorry about that.
Em 08-02-2013 16:18, Rafael Mendonça França escreveu:
Before calling something or someone stupid please try to
understand the person/project, its historical reasons,
its needs.
Talking about something you don't understand is very easy.
Next time think twice before insulting the project on
this list again, or you could not get replies.
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