Dojo is not associated with Microsoft in any way.  Not that I know of.  I'm
not sure where you are getting that from.
http://dojotoolkit.org/foundation/

>From my understanding, Dojo is funded by IBM, Sun and others shown above
though, and your point is a good one -- well funded open source libraries
are long lasting.  (but Microsoft has it's own "Atlas" toolkit... not
working collaboratively with open source, they don't 'usually' do that, no)


On 11/30/06, Deco Rior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> First, of all, good luck. This is a big endeavour, and if you feel
> you can be successful we should applaud you for your enthusiasm. A
> little arrogance comes we the territory I think (but you did make me
> cringe a little).
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Peter Michaux wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Deco,
> >
> > On 11/30/06, Deco Rior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> So... if Peter really wants to make his mark, can he at least try to
> >> keep the API the same or compatible with Prototype.
> >
> > The API is similar in some places but can't stay the same. I am
> > writing a namespaced library.
>
> Appreciate the NameSpace. That is easy to search and replace.
>
> But don't expect us to require complex regex to make the transfer,
> and if you do then supply the conversion scripts.  Most migration
> technologies fail, not because of the feature vs. feature comparison,
> but because the barrier to migrate is too high.
> >
> > For example,
> >
> > new Insertion.Bottom(id, html)
> >
> > becomes
> >
> > FORK.Mutate.insertBottom(id, html)
> >
> >
> >> After over 12 months of investment, the barrier to migrate with a
> >> major code change to another library would be daunting.
> >
> > Fork probably isn't ready yet for this situation but eventually I
> > think the work would be worth it.
>
> Um...how big an app do you think we have? Any major code change is
> very costly, mostly in QA. We essentially are about 80% through our
> rewrite based on AJAX. A major code change is where we cannot simply
> script the code, and requires us to potentially touch each file.
>
> You should have seen the agony we went through in making the decision
> to get away from WebObjects!
>
> >
> >
> >> In any case
> >> it would need to be something with some muscle behind it (by that I
> >> mean, contributers, funding, third-party certification).
> >
> > Perhaps one day. Not many open source software projects start with
> > this much muscle.
>
> And you cannot build a mission critical solution on a startup open-
> source. Try and get SAS 70 certification on libraries with version 0.2a!
>
>
> >
> >
> >> No matter how good the code is, unless I have some degree of
> >> certainty that the next version of IE will not break it we cannot
> >> commit.
> >
> > I too need this code to work with IE 7.
>
> Just an example...the point is that a library that is not maintained
> because of one key developer is a risk.
>
> In many ways this has made us look at DOJO, since SUN, IBM, and
> MICROSOFT are all vested heavily. Say what you want about the code,
> but the bottom line is that we can do everything we need to do even
> though it is not elegant. It is funny, PHP kinda of falls into the
> same category ;-)
>
> Plus we use lasso which has its advantages also.
>
> One dumb question...what is there to stop someone getting a branch of
> prototype source and going off and making a better version? If Sam
> doesn't have time, that is okay...Do we need a Linus?
>
>
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>


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