OK, sorry for that statement. You know... there's that whole platform bias
thing again.

All your platforms are belong to us.

On 1/31/07, Christophe Porteneuve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Ryan,
>
> Ryan Gahl a écrit :
> > It's for enterprise caliber application development on a large scale
> > with minimal effort. Not something anyone is ever going to attempt with
> > Ruby (at least anyone in their right minds). Yes, java is a fine
>
> Now you are (slightly) bashing as well.  I take issue with the "ever"
> part.  As of today, Ruby and Rails certainly can and do provide
> enterprise-scale apps with minimal effort, and although this requires
> some skill now and then (particularly to properly scale up the server
> side), the trend towards better and smoother scaling in the RoR world is
> clear.
>
> I would like this not to keep sliding off into a flamewar, as it seems
> to be now.  We all have various languages, tools and overall frameworks
> we favor.  I, for one, have spent enough time on Java and J2EE, C++,
> Delphi, Ruby/RoR and (from a strictly non-prod standpoint) .NET to like
> many features of C# anyway.
>
> It is, as you said, a matter of TCO, which includes the critical factor
> of vendor lock-in.  Not on the tooling anymore (though it certainly
> remains, so far, easier and more productive to use VS.NET than other
> tools, except maybe for Borland's), but certainly on the language, which
> is not, IIRC, as open and standards-based nowadays as it was first
> advocated to be.
>
> So it's TCO.  And personal taste.  Here we get people who love ASP.NET
> (as long as they stay away from VB, I can accept the notion ;-)), J2EE
> (with whichever frameworks permutation they use), ColdFusion (as we saw
> recently!), PHP, RoR or Delphi.  It's fine.  To each their own.
>
> --
> Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >
>


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Ryan Gahl
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Athena Group, Inc.
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