On Mar 19, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Peter2 wrote:

> isn't that the whole point of IPE, to make elements, you know,
> Editable In Place?
>
> if everyone wanted to use FORMs then we would never have any reason
> for an IPE, but someone decided that this IPE thing might be a good
> idea, that there was value  in it, and i happen to agree.

Yes, but who ever needed to edit an editable thing? That reminds me of 
the picture of the wine bottle with the picture of the wine bottle on 
the label with the picture...

It sounds to me as though you are frustrated with the bare-bones IPE. 
Which is fine, and understandable.

But the way that you are going about fixing it -- you could simply make 
a custom form page and use other parts of scriptactulous to make that 
form submit out-of-band, i.e.: in the same way that the IPE works. Then 
you could also set the default behavior of your Textarea to not be 
selected. You could make the page not jump around, etc. IPE is a very 
general purpose tool, and to get it to fit into your scheme may be more 
work than it's worth.

Really, you are rowing upstream as fast as you can here, but this seems 
to me to be a lot of effort to fix something which I'm not convinced is 
broken. I use IPE in places. I also use Ajax.Updater to handle form 
submits, as I demo'd to you. They each have their place.

Finally, take a careful look at the css rules that you can apply to the 
IPE. That may fix your entire issue with the page jumping around and 
changing shape on you. Fix the visual problem in the presentation layer 
-- the plumbing and structure work just fine.

Walter


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