Yeah I took one look at Atlas and ran for the hills- now I just use
prototype and scriptaculous.
I do find the asp.net ids on server controls painful though, I sometimes use
server controls to speed development up particularly when I do want to
perform actual postbacks- that is changing though.
I usually only use server controls when I want to access the control from
the code-behind, and not just on postback.

I'm all the way over in Auckland, New Zealand- we made slashdot twice today
(that's a miracle)! (once for something to do with evolution and again
because russian space junk almost took out a plane inbound :)

I found a neat trick with master pages and page-specific onload functions
and that is to have a dummy onload function in the masterpage that checks to
see if a function, eg: Begin exists and calls it if it does- that way you
can code each onload in its own page .js.... Would be nice if i could get
VWD/VS to stack the .js files under the aspx, like it does with the
aspx.[cs|vb]

Gareth


On 3/27/07, Ryan Gahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I do ajax with .net, but not using MS's ajax (the framework formerly known
> as Atlas).
>
> I'm out of Appleton, WI (it's about an hour drive North from Milwaukee if
> you care to try to place it geographically).
>
> You?
>
>
> On 3/25/07, Gareth Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I dunno Ryan, I do prototype ajax + .net too :)
> > I think it's a good combination.
> > Others might argue otherwise.
> > Where are you based out of?
> >
> > Gareth
> >
> >
> >  On 3/23/07, Ryan Gahl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I am probably close to being the biggest .NET proponent on this list,
> > > and I wouldn't touch Atlas with a ten foot pole.
> > >
> > > I know that doesn't help your situation in the short term, but you
> > > could probably do yourself a lot of good by ditching Atlas. If you don't
> > > ditch Atlas, I would imagine you are going to have to be willing to ditch
> > > any other [serious] client side lib you may think to use later on.
> > >
> > > Then again, this is coming from someone who has been rolling his own
> > > Ajax controls for quite some time. Like most MS stuff, I'm sure Atlas's 
> > > draw
> > > is because you don't have to touch the innards of the Ajax technique
> > > (innards is a good word).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 3/22/07, Christophe Porteneuve < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey Lee,
> > > >
> > > > Lee a écrit :
> > > > > I am trying to include some atlas controls on the same page that I
> > > > am
> > > > > doing a Rico.Accordion.  The problem is that if I do this, then
> > > > the
> > > > > tab control I am using disappears and all of my Rico stuff stops
> > > > > working.  If I comment out the src in of Rico or Prototype, then
> > > > atlas
> > > > > works.  And conversely, if I comment out all atlas controls then
> > > > all
> > > > > of my Rico stuff works.  I would appreciate any suggestions that
> > > > > anyone may have.
> > > >
> > > > I'm no Atlas expert, but I keep hearing it just breaks every other
> > > > script around, for instance by extending Object.prototype, and also
> > > > because stuff like atlascompat.js breaks W3C DOM behavior to make it
> > > >
> > > > behave more like MSIE's when in another browser.  I hope I'm not
> > > > spreading FUD here, I'm just repeating things I've been seeing time
> > > > and
> > > > again on this list.
> > > >
> > > > I was under the impression that Atlas had so many issues that most
> > > > people went with AjaxPro.Net or some other alternative.  But maybe
> > > > that
> > > > was back in .NET 1 time...  You might want to do a quick scan on
> > > > Atlas-related articles at, say, Ajaxian.com <http://ajaxian.com/>before 
> > > > committing further to
> > > > this specific library.  AJAX with .NET does not mandate Atlas...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Athena Group, Inc.
> > > > Inquire: 1-920-955-1457
> > > > Blog: http://www.someElement.com <http://www.someelement.com/>
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
> --
> Ryan Gahl
> Application Development Consultant
> Athena Group, Inc.
> Inquire: 1-920-955-1457
> Blog: http://www.someElement.com <http://www.someelement.com/>
> >
>

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