Hi all, I've been pursuing this new group thing behind the scenes with Tobie and the core team. And apparently I'm not the only one who thinks the spam has gotten just ridiculous. As you may know, we were sort of holding off moving to the new group until A) We could locate and contact the owner of this group so we could modify its description (etc.) to point to the new one, and B) Until we finished and posted a new FAQ to prototypejs.org which would (among other things) mention the new group. Frankly, both of them have been holding things up.
But! Good news on both fronts. Tobie has finally succeeded (after much effort) in contacting an owner/manager of this group (DHH, in fact), and I've taken kangax's stuff, Tobie's outline, a few of my own ideas, and gotten together a draft FAQ. No major comments in a week, so it's now just pending Andrew doing some final edits to it, and then one of the core team will post it to the site. We already have enough volunteers to be moderators on the new group (and many, many thanks to the folks who've come forward) so we can cut way down on spam. So here's my recommendation: * 6 July 2008 (or soon thereafter): Post the FAQ. * 6 July 2008: "Open" the new group (it's currently hidden to avoid confusion), announce it in a thread here, and allow discussions in both places while suggesting that new threads get posted to the new group (but still answering them here if they're posted her). Start moving any ongoing discussions to the new group. * 15 July 2008: Stop answering questions here. If someone posts here, we'll just tell them to repost to the new group (that can mostly be done by doing a standard footer that goes on all messages). Edit the description of this group to redirect people to the new group. * 15 August 2008: Close this group entirely to new posts. Here are the details of the new group -- we still have time to change the URL/email address if people want, but as we say here in the UK, it does what it says on the box: New group name: Prototype & script.aculo.us URL: http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All in favor of the above say aye! -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Jun 14, 10:51 am, "T.J. Crowder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > What say we create anewgroupto replace this one, perhaps called > "Prototype Scriptaculous Users"? I have four reasons for suggesting > this: > > 1. Prototype and Scriptaculous have grown far beyond their Ruby-on- > Rails spinoff status, and I'll even venture to say (speaking off the > top of my head, based on no data or research whatsoever) that most > users of Prototype and Scriptaculous don't use Ruby or Rails. > > 2. People keep posting Ruby questions to thegroup; hopefully taking > "ruby" out of the name will minimize that. > > 3. People searching for Prototype help will probably be more likely to > find thegroup(although I don't think it's currently a massive > problem; I was pretty unusure when I first found it, though). > > 4. We can turn onnewmember post moderation and stop the spam; we can > limit page posting to managers only (being fairly liberal with who we > add as managers). > > Regarding #4: Moderating posts fromnewmembers is a PITA, but I > think there are enough of us who are active enough -- kangax, Fred P., > JDD, Christophe, RobG, Walter D., and lately myself -- that if we make > all of us managers,newmessages will get approved pretty quickly. > > Just to reserve the name (don't ask me why), I've created thegroup > but completely locked it down until/unless we decide to use it. If > so, I'll open it up and add people as managers, and if someone more > appropriate would like to take ownership of thegroup, I'll happily > set them up. > > Thoughts? > -- > T.J.Crowder > tj /crowdersoftware / com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
