Ah, forget my previous post, around ~1,5k will go to paying the bills, food 
etc. so it's about 1k staying in your pocket for entertainment or anything 
else that's not a required expense.

On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:48:46 UTC+3, powi wrote:
>
> Hi Werner, thanks for your helpful answers!
>
> When you say 30k, you mean after paying bills (house, food etc), right?
>
> On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:39:20 UTC+3, Werner Laude wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 25.09.2012 um 15:35 schrieb powi <corestu...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Santiago..
>>
>> Hi Werner.
>>
>> Well I'm 24, I have a lot of experience generally on computers and web 
>> development (~10 years). So what would you aim for if you were me? It's 
>> going to be a full-time work, I'm going to be a part of the team. Someone 
>> recommended ~50k (I'm a junior in Rails, but learning fast and built some 
>> quite good things till now).
>>
>>
>> 50k is fine to start.
>>
>>
>> Also, what would you estimate the life there costs? I mean, the bills 
>> (house, electricity, water, food, internet/phone)?
>>
>>
>> Rent: 500.- for 1-2 Rooms
>> Apartment with furniture 600.-/ 800.-
>>
>>
>> Food : 250.-
>> Transport: 60.- (public)
>> Haircut: 10.-
>> Party...???
>>
>> when you earn 50k, no kids ..income taxes will be around 30%..but also 
>> you have to pay sick- and pension insurance, etc. . So from 50k around 30k 
>> will stay in your pocket.. which is not bad for 24 year young guy.
>>
>> Enjoy Berlin..culture is great.
>> o.k. weather is not like Barcelona..no siesta (8:00 - 17:30 straight 
>> work),  no outdoor sitting in the sun , running  around in t-shirt etc..at 
>> least not from now to next May. Can be be fucking cold in Jan - March
>> Communication can be mostly in english..no need to learn German..in the 
>> beginning.
>> Berlin people are a little direct at times but helpful, but there are so 
>> many foreigners..
>>
>> Go for it.. Spain is not in a good shape right now...
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I heard the taxes there are quite high, something like 45%?
>>
>> On Monday, 24 September 2012 21:17:02 UTC+3, powi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all.
>>>
>>> I'm living in Spain, and I'm offered a job in a Berlin IT company as a 
>>> Rails developer. I'm considered a junior developer (almost 1 year 
>>> experience) but I think I'm pretty good for this time. 
>>>
>>> I would like to ask what would be considered a good salary for such a 
>>> position. I mean, what amount would be good and could make a decent life 
>>> out of (apartment bill, internet, food etc.). I don't know if this matters, 
>>> but I will relocate there.
>>>
>>> Also, does anybody knows what's the average IT salary in Berlin for 
>>> Rails developers?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Santiago
>>>
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