On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 8:10 PM, DHH <da...@loudthinking.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> That article is a joke. Of course Rails training is not as much in demand 
>> as it was when it was brand new and nobody knew how to work with it. But to 
>> think that the change in that has anything to do with the rise of 
>> J2EE/Spring?! Come on.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:54:58 PM UTC-5, vedant agarwala wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello people,
>>>
>>> I was mildly shocked to read this article:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/07/26/ruby-rails-major-coding-bootcamp-ditches-due-waning-interest/?amp=1
>>>
>>> Wanted to know what you think. 
>>>
>>> I kind of agree with the front-end becoming more relevant argument, but 
>>> projects being started on spring instead of rails. Is it really true, or 
>>> more importantly, could it be better ?
>>> Rails is already embracing JavaScript and SPAs with webpacker.
>>>
>>> This article wrote that java is challenging for new devs. Seriously? 
>>> Java is easier than Ruby?!
>>>
>>> I am a big fan of rails, and personally hate java. But my opinion is 
>>> quite biased. Rails is the only web framework I've on since I started 5 
>>> years ago. So what do you think about the article.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Vedant.
>>>
>>
It's drivel. What difference does the market use of a tool make to people 
learning to code from a standing start. Unis still teach Logo and Fortran 
(among other esoteric anachronisms).

I've worked at (and set up) a fair share of code-bootcamps. Pandering to 
the "employers want Java" camp just causes the "employers want .Net" camp 
to scream louder.
The fact of the matter is, the students need to learn to code. Ruby is a 
good language for that (as are others), and whether or not it's a saleable 
skill after 10/12/14 weeks of study is irrelevant. The students on the boot 
camps are taking the first steps in learning to code - often from having 
never *ever* tried to code before - and if they get a job at the end of the 
course that they need to be familar with Java (or any other language) for, 
at the level they're at, it's a trivial task for them to come up to the 
same level they are at in whatever language they studied on their boot camp.


 

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