> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:19 PM, fugee ohu <fugee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 2:48:06 PM UTC-5, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Dec 29, 2019, at 11:44 PM, fugee ohu <fuge...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > I searched my entire tree starting at / for the name of my mail server but 
> > didn't find it Everything's working it sends mail in production just fine 
> > but I'm trying to figure out how, since it seems I never put the url of my 
> > mail server anywhere? 
> 
> Your production server may be set up with postfix or sendmail, and thus the 
> default (SMTP to localhost) will Just Work™. When your application sends 
> mail, it just sends a raw SMTP message to port 25 on the localhost, and the 
> mail server running there accepts it and forwards it. That's the default, 
> baked into Rails, in case you don't configure anything more specific. 
> 
> This is almost never what you actually want, because unless your production 
> Web server is also set up as an authoritative (DNS-verified) SMTP server, 
> your mail delivery will be spotty at best to large (think Gmail) recipients. 
> Those services take spam very seriously, and you have to climb over some tall 
> fences (configured in DNS, mainly, through TEXT and MX records) in order to 
> please them enough to accept your messages. 
> 
> This is doubly-true if your application is designed to send mail that is 
> "apparently-from" someone who is not at your server's domain. Services like 
> SendGrid exist to take this pain away from you, making sending transactional 
> e-mail as pain-free as possible, because they work to ensure that their 
> servers don't end up on banned lists, or get off them quickly. 
> 
> My recommendation if you want to send mail out to one user that appears to be 
> from another user, such that they can just hit "reply" in their mail 
> application and respond to it, send the message with the headers From: 
> a-real-...@your-server.com, and Reply-to: us...@example.com. That way the 
> message is deliverable (since it came from you, and you authenticate that in 
> your DNS settings), but the recipient can simply press Reply and not have to 
> manually correct the To: address in that message. 
> 
> Walter
> 
> I found google was rejecting mail from my server because I didn't DKIM and 
> DMARC signatures setup After adding the services how do I ask google to 
> re-review my mail server if I'm not using gsuite?
> 

I'm pretty sure it's done on a message-by-message basis. I doubt they maintain 
a ban-list that you're on, and have to remove you from. Each message 
purportedly "from" some other address is a new and special thing, since headers 
are so very easy to forge.

Walter

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