After a bit of experimentation i confirmed for myself that that is 
indeed the case :)

thanks a lot Andrew, this is great.  I'd seen named scopes before but 
never really used them much and never realised their potential for 
managing includes.

One thing i noticed which is interesting...lessons are joined to assets 
through a join table, 'elements'.

if i use the with_assets scope for an association that goes through a 
join table, then rails does a further join to the assets table, like 
you'd expect with an include, so we have this situation:

user JOIN user_usb_lessons JOIN lessons JOIN elements JOIN assets

If, however, it's a simple association (such as user.lessons, which just 
uses Lesson's user_id field) then rails splits it off into three sql 
calls:  the first to load the lessons, the second to load the elements 
(join table records) and the third to load the assets.

I guess that three seperate simple calls were seen as preferable to a 
single JOIN?

Anyway, thanks again!
max
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