I don't think its 2000 quite yet.. 96 sounds more like it. In 1999 I once got offered a dot com startup job with stock options, great benefits, etc.. sitting in a starbucks, by a stranger who had never seen my work. I was only 17... so that must describe the level of desperation in the marketplace for developers.
I do think we are going to see a new tech bubble.. and it seems like ruby is certainly the right community to get involved in. I am trying to move my company from doing php work to rails work for that very reason. Like everyone else, I am not sure who would be willing to work at that rate when you can find ruby jobs all over the place offering a great salary. On May 26, 9:54 am, Martin Wawrusch <mar...@wawrusch.com> wrote: > You just made my day. You are the second person that I have spoken to this > week who believes it is more like 1996, and I definitely hope so. I had a I > was getting offered a dot com job for some new startup every few months. > good exit (3 f**ing weeks to late) with my startup during the first wave and > we all know the difference between good and great. Really glad that I can > experience this all over again. And btw back then I had to fend off angry > grannies because I did not let them invest back them (imaging 80 year olds > screaming at you, no kidding) > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Peter Bell <pe...@pbell.com> wrote: > > @Martin, > > > Quite! Although I've heard some reasoned discussion that it's more like > > 1996. Which means there is still a little time to lay up some profits while > > the money is out there. > > > This is an amazing time to work at a funded start-up. Good cash comp, > > interesting work, some upside in the form of options. Just make sure to save > > a chunk of your salary so when everything finally does implode you'll be > > able to ride out the down times. > > > And there's an easy way to tell approximately when the good times will end. > > It will be about six months after your Grandmother sees an infomercial and > > puts retirement money into a special hedge fund selling derivatives that > > somehow avoid the sophisticated investor laws but that are backed by a > > secondary market in non-public stock of tech start ups. Once even your > > granny (and apologies and exclusions to anyone whose grandma actually *is* a > > sophisticated wall street trader) is investing in pre-IPO startup shares, > > it's time to tune up your Scala and Clojure skills and take a cushy finance > > or insurance job for about 6-8 years until the cycle starts again. > > > Welcome back to 1996. And now to return to our regularly scheduled > > technical programming :) > > > Best Wishes, > > Peter > > > On May 26, 2011, at 12:25 AM, Martin Wawrusch wrote: > > > The whole funding scene is nuts right now, and that trickles down to ruby > > developers (and wait for the need for coffeescript/node.js developers). It > > is going to get worse though from a hiring perspective, with the IPOs coming > > up and even more fresh money available. And yeah, it feels like 1999 again - > > one hell of a year :P > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Peter Bell <pe...@pbell.com> wrote: > > >> Not at $28/hr. :) > > >> But it certainly is outside of Toronto. I've been to 5 conferences in the > >> last two weeks and in every one, pretty much every deck seemed to end with > >> a > >> "we're hiring" slide. And most of the positions I was hearing about were > >> safely north of $100k/yr. At least in the major US metro markets . . . > > >> Seriously, this is the best labor market I've seen for developers since > >> 1999. It's nuts. > > >> I'd still like to know what LivingSocial paid for Glenn and the gang at > >> InfoEther . . . > > >> Best Wishes, > >> Peter > > >> On May 26, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Alex Katebi wrote: > > >> <517.gif>Hurray!!!<517.gif> The recession is finally over.<517.gif> > > >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:02 PM, UTbibapp <info.tsp...@utoronto.ca> > >> wrote: > >> > Hello, > > >> > I sincerely hope that it is appropriate to post this on this mailing > >> > list. Please see the posting and information on how to apply below. > > >> > Gabriela > > >> > Position Title: Ruby on Rails developer > > >> > Description > >> > This position requires the incumbent to work in IT Services at UTL. > >> > Working in a small team, under direction of the Director of the > >> > Information Technology Services, University of Toronto Libraries, the > >> > incumbent will be responsible for adding service features specific to > >> > the UofT community to our newest service, Focus, which is an Expert > >> > Finder application that supports the promotion of faculty research. > >> > Building on the BibApp open-source framework, the incumbent will add > >> > features enabling customization of Focus and its integration with > >> > other services, including a custom authentication system. > > >> > Qualifications > >> > Education: University degree in Computer Science or acceptable > >> > equivalent combination of education and experience. > > >> > Minimum 3 years experience with programming in Ruby on Rails. 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