Reading your answer again I just realized that you did not recommend to write 
my own clock implementation. Therefore you may just ignore that question.

I am still curious what PR stands for though.

Alex

On 30.09.2013, at 17:44, Alexander Wolf <m...@alexander-wolf.net> wrote:

> 
> Thanks Edson, 
> 
> - What exactly is a "PR" ? >  I wouldn't mind helping with the documentation.
> 
> - how would I declare my own clock implementation in the session 
> configuration? I can't find any example for this. (?) 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> On 30.09.2013, at 16:23, Edson Tirelli <ed.tire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>    Alexander,
>> 
>>    Regarding the clock, to be honest, I think you found a loophole... :) the 
>> original design does not allow switching out clocks on an existing session 
>> as it is impossible for the engine to guarantee consistency in such case. 
>> Additionally, in my experience, real time clocks are usually not the best 
>> choice for production applications. They require less code, but in the end, 
>> the application has no control over the time flow and can create several 
>> situations that will make it impossible for you to obtain the desired 
>> results.
>> 
>>    My suggestion is always to use a pseudo clock and have your application 
>> control it based on your desired behaviour. This can be as simple as a 
>> thread syncing the clock with the machine clock at predefined intervals, or 
>> based on a clock heartbeat event, or based on the streams of events, etc.
>> 
>>    Thanks for pointing out the docs errors. We will update them for the next 
>> release (6.0.0). Also, if you can submit a PR with the update, always happy 
>> to apply.
>> 
>>    Edson
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Alexander Wolf <m...@alexander-wolf.net> 
>> wrote:
>> [SOLUTION]
>> 
>> I found a "solution/workaround" to this problem:
>> I create the session with JPAKnowledgeService.newStatefulKnowledgeSession() 
>> and pseudo clock in configuration, feed in my old events -> and store the 
>> session it a database.
>> When retrieving the session, I  can set realtime clock in the configuration 
>> with JPAKnowledgeService.loadStatefulKnowledgeSession().
>> 
>> As I am not really interested in storing the sessions, I use an in-memory db 
>> like in the documentation (3.3.10. Persistence and Transactions)
>> 
>> @Project Team:
>> The documentation (Chapter 3.3.10 / Drools 5.5.0) is really outdated, e.g.  
>> the package references in persistence.xml are not correct any more .
>> Also it seems to be a full example, but missing location of files (where to 
>> put persistence.xml) and information about general configuration of 
>> hibernate and bitronix. (I can see why you omitted it, but it would be 
>> helpful)
>> 
>> I also don't get why it is impossible to do the same with the 
>> SerializeMarshallingStrategy -> I am pretty sure that the UnMarshaller also 
>> internally sets a new clock configuration and it would be a great feature, 
>> if this could be exposed to let developers set their own clock as required.
>> 
>> Cheers, Alex
>> 
>> On 25.09.2013, at 06:59, Wolfgang Laun <wolfgang.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Setting the clock is a session configuration option, which means that
>> > it has to be set at session instantiation time.
>> >
>> > You might try to continue to use the pseudo-clock until you have finished
>> > the replay and mimick the realtime clock with it, although it might need
>> > some experimenting to learn when and how to advance the pseudo-clock:
>> > before and/or after insertions, every n ms,...
>> >
>> > -W
>> >
>> > On 24/09/2013, amarok <m...@alexander-wolf.net> wrote:
>> >> I am still stuck with this. Is there any way to replay events into a
>> >> session
>> >> and then getting into realtime mode?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> amarok wrote
>> >>> Drools 5.5
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey guys,
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it possible to replace the session clock of an existing stateful
>> >>> knowledge session (STREAM mode) while it is running or at least by
>> >>> pausing
>> >>> and restarting it?
>> >>> I need to feed old events into the session to restore a certain session
>> >>> state before switching the sessions to "realtime" mode and continue with
>> >>> new incoming events...
>> >>>
>> >>> A code snippet would make me very happy ;)
>> >>>
>> >>> - Alex
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