I would go for #1. But, this is a bit horrible
auto x = { auto t = 11; if (foo()) { t = 10; }; t; };
Could it be written as
auto x;
if (foo()) { x = 10; } else {x = 11; }
or would the 'auto' type determination run into problems?

I imagine that 'if' and 'alt' are the most useful statements to have
as expressions, so would it be possible to add the C ternary ?:
operator, and something similar for alt?

Pete

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Rob Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
> Option 3 is my favorite (2 would be too cumbersome I think).
>
> On Nov 23, 2010 2:34 PM, "Graydon Hoare" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Some of you may have noticed that in the rewrite from rustboot to rustc
> we're becoming substantially more expression-language-ish. This is mostly a
> result of me yielding to the preferences of other developers (and LLVM's
> semantics), as well as some hint that things get much easier in syntax
> extensions and calculating compile-time-constants if we permit more
> "statement-ish" forms as expressions. Particularly conditionals.
>
> We've run into a (common, seen in many other languages) sort of problem
> along the way here, which is that some expressions are implicitly ignored
> (or must be, due to being in an ignored context) whereas others are not. We
> have a nil-type (), but we don't always have sensible rules for forcing
> things to have the nil type by context.
>
> This email is a poll of alternative solutions. I'll give two example cases
> and ask people for their input on which modification of the rules feels
> best.
>
> Example case that does compile:
>
>  A:  auto x = if (foo()) { 10; } else { 11; };
>
> Example case that does not compile:
>
>  B:  if (foo()) { 10; } else { "hello"; }
>
> We can write this in rust at the moment, but in the rustc typechecking rules
> it will fail to compile, because 'if' is an expression-statement,
> expressions have types, and the types of the two branches (judged as the
> last statement's expression value, if it's an expression, or else nil) are
> of different types.
>
> Here are some approaches to solving this example. Please pick the one you
> like the most:
>
> (1) Kick all branchy expressions out of the expression grammar, put them
> back in the statement grammar. Case B will compile, and case A must be
> rewritten like so:
>
>  A:  auto x = { auto t = 11; if (foo()) { t = 10; }; t; };
>
> This is the C-with-GNU-extensions model.
>
> (2) Hoist all statements up into the expression language and make semicolon
> into a sequencing operator, with a trailing-semi ignored by the parser. Then
> we need to rewrite only the second case to force unit types in the
> to-be-ignored differing branches.
>
>  B:  if (foo()) { 10; () } else { "hello"; () }
>
> Though we'd also be *allowed* to rewrite the first case to drop the
> semicolons:
>
>  A:  auto x = if (foo() { 10 } else { 11 };
>
> This is the Ocaml approach.
>
> (3) A slightly weaker form of (2), which is to reformulate blocks with the
> following grammar:
>
>    block ::=  { [ stmt ; ]* expr? }
>
> In other words, every block becomes a brace-enclosed sequence of
> semicolon-terminated statements, followed by an optional expr. If the expr
> is missing, it is implied as (). In this case we'd be rewriting only the
> first case:
>
>  A:  auto x = if (foo()) { 10 } else { 11 };
>
> This is similar to the Ocaml rule in practice, except that it makes the
> presence or absence of the final semicolon in a block equivalent to ending
> the block with the nil type. This is a possible hazard (especially during
> refactoring or editing) to users who want to write a value-producing block
> but accidentally semicolon-terminate the last expression; but it's not a
> huge hazard since the typechecker will tell them the value they produced is
> of nil type. It just might be hit a lot.
>
> (4) Statically determine the contexts in which an expression's value "will
> be used" in an outer expression, and only typecheck those contexts. This
> permits both of the examples to compile as-is, but it's the most unorthodox
> approach, and poses a refactoring hazard as code may become type-invalid
> when nested into an expression context that "uses" its previously-ignored
> result. Again, as in (3) the typechecker will catch these cases, but they
> might happen more or less often than those in (3).
>
> We can't think of any other options. Significant whitespace is not an option
> :)
>
> Personally my knee-jerk reaction is to embrace (1) since I like statements
> anyway, but I can see plausible arguments for the other 3. Can I get a show
> of hands? We have to pick something.
>
> -Graydon
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