As someone looking strongly at rust for things i normally use c++ for, I'm not switching for memory safety. When I need real performance (i.e. When I'm likely to switch to c++), i frequently do a lot of unsafe things in either language.
I was sold on rust because it's a "syntactically lightweight, fast-building c++, with a real type system (adts!) and hygenic macros". On Mar 4, 2014 2:00 AM, "Nathan Myers" <n...@cantrip.org> wrote: > On 03/03/2014 09:18 PM, Kevin Ballard wrote: > >> On Mar 3, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Nathan Myers <n...@cantrip.org> wrote: >> >> There are certainly cases in either language where nothing but a >>> pointer will do. The problem here is to present examples that are >>> simple enough for presentation, not contrived, and where Rust has >>> the clear advantage in safety and (ideally) clarity. For such >>> >> >> examples I'm going to insist on a competent C++ coder if we are > >> not to drive away our best potential converts. > >> >> You seem to be arguing that C++ written correctly by a highly-skilled >> > > C++ coder is just as good as Rust code, and therefore the inherent > > safety of Rust does not give it an advantage over C++. And that's > >> ridiculous. >> > > That would be a ridiculous position to argue, and this would be a > ridiculous place to argue it. Maybe try reading the preceding > paragraph again? > > My concern is that the examples presented in tutorials must be > compelling to skilled C++ programmers. If we fail to win them over, the > whole project will have been a waste of time. The most skilled > C++ programmers know all too well what mistakes show up over and > over again. They have lots of experience with proposed solutions > that fail. > > C++ is mature enough now that some are looking for the language > that can pick up where C++ leaves off. They wonder if Rust might > become that language. (It manifestly is not that language yet.) > They are who will need to initiate new, important projects that > risk using it, and they are who will explain what it doesn't do > well enough yet, and how to fix it -- but only if we can keep > their already heavily-oversubscribed interest in the first 30 > minutes. A silly example is deadly. > > Nathan Myers > _______________________________________________ > Rust-dev mailing list > Rust-dev@mozilla.org > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev >
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