Hi John,  I spent the earlier part of the week photographing several of 
DesPlains's gondolas and I installed Kadee's on some of the cars.  There 
is what appears to be a continous metal sheet between the wood floor and 
the outside plastic floor. Therefore there is not much 'meat' for the 
coupler screws to grab.  I tried to drill into the metal sheet but it 
must be hard steel and didn't drill very well.  Because I used the Kadee 
coupler, I used their screws after cutting them off a bit.  Although the 
plastic floor is thin the coupler seems to hold well enough.  
     I have the Milwaukee peek-a-boo car and one other conventional 
version (CNW) and am very happy with their weight and overall appearance.  
Bob Werre

John Gibson wrote:

>Just received two of the Puget Sound Convention cars and they are 
>really sharp looking cars.  However, I need to remove the "claw" and 
>get my S-Helper #001295 couplers installed.  Has anybody installed 
>SHS/Kadee couplers on one of these cars yet?  How did ya do it?
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>Thanks!
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>John Gibson
>Rocklin, CA
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