Please see comments interespersed below:
--- In [email protected], "robbyking13" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Thomas Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Category I: What is readily available > > 1. PRS 40-foot box cars, almost any road > 2. SHS stock cars > > ROBBY: STOCK CARS WOULD NOT BE THAT HIGH ON THE LIST. > PLENTY OF TRAINS RAN WITHOUT THEM. Pieter: True, but stock cars are more common than we sometimes think, they were not restricted to the western roads or running to the big meat processing plants in the mid-west. One of the recent articles in the RMC series was devoted to stockcars. > 3. SHS USRA SS cars, almost any road, but NYC and PRR ought to be > high on the list > > ROBBY: I HAVE PRR, WABASH, RUTLAND, CB&Q Pieter: The Rutland is an oddball, representing a similar Canadian built car that Rutland salvaged after paying off CN for it. D&H is another good roadname, and can be made more interesting by fitting it with a DPH Viking roof (covered in HO in the RMC series) or adding hoppers and roof hatches to make a cement hopper. Many similar cars were built with "Z" section framing rather than the "hat" section of the true USRA cars (and the SHS model). Most of the latter also had different ends and frequently a Hutchins roof like the Accurail HO SS car. > 4. Des Plaines 10,000 gallon tank cars [UTLX, SHPX, high on the list, > Army cars or whatever way lower] > > ROBBY: I HAVE ALL THREE ARMY TANK CARS! Pieter: The DPH car is closest to a General American car, but can be modified to resemble an ACF or ULTX "X" series car. Non-the-less, I would rate it in the "Some work required" catagory. Might as well include the Lehigh Valley Models tank cars. > > 5. Des Plaines war emergency gon > > ROBBY: GONDOLA IS A PRE WAR WOODEN USRA. Pieter: I'm not sure how many cars retained wooden sides by the 1940's, but I'm sure some did. The seperate sides allow modeling some cars that retained all the framing but substituted steel plating for the wood, NYC had some cars like this. > > 6. SHS rebuilt, steel sheathed box cars [ roofs and end may require > modification] > > ROBBY: THE BOXCAR REPRESENTS 9 FT INSIDE HEIGHT BOXCARS, > SO MANY ARE NOT TALL ENOUGH. Pieter: Don Thompson says he based it on the Frisco rebuilds, which retained the original height. I think the ACL cars also retained this height. The car is too narrow, as the prototype ends were widened in rebuilding. > 7. AM mill gons [don't know for sure which cars reflect the prototype] > > ROBBY: NONE! IT WAS GENERIC! Pieter: However, there are similar prototypes for 52' 14 panel mill gons, CN, CP, LV, NYC, WM, C&O, CNJ, PRR, D&H, B&O had cars for which the AM car can be a stand-in. > 8. SHS hoppers [especially USRA ribbed, and the offset cars, panel > hoppers] Pieter: very common cars in the east. Hoppers are less common on western roads, which is why Ted has so far excluded them from his series. > 9. SHS General Steel Castings flat cars Pieter: Also V&T shops SP flat, Rex flat which reportedly is close to a number of prototypes. AM flat is reported to be close to a MILW car. The AF flat is a C&NW car, and can be modified to an ACL 46 ft car or a CP car if you cut off the fishbelly side sills. AAR 50 and 70 ton flats would be great models to have, but flats in general are not common enough to fit Ted's "Essential" criteria. > 10. SHS PS-2 covered hopper > 11. SHS three-bay expanded PS-2 Pieter: F&C Dunmore hopper can probably be cut down to a General American standard 2 bay covered hopper, which would provide some variation to the PS and NYC/Despatch cars. A number of railroads convereted USRA type hoppers to covered cars as well. > 12. AM grain hoppers if you are in the requisite time period > > ROBBY: VERY FEW WOULD NOTICE THAT THE CAR IS A FEW YEARS BEYOND! > > 13. AM three-bay ARA hopper [might need some additional detailing] > > ROBBY: THESE ARE EXCELLENT! GREAT PAINT SCHEMES! > SOME COLORFUL COAL HOPPERS, AS I REQUESTED FROM AM. > > ROBBY: NO MENTION OF ANY REFRIGERATOR CARS (AM, SHS, PRS)! Pieter: SHS reefer is an ACF design, common in the 1920's. Jeff English has noted it's an ok starting point for an MDT wooden car and Earl Tuson suggested some FGE cars are similar. The PRS reefer is a PFE steel car, also used by NP. It's a stand-in for any other prototypes. The AM reefer is really a plug door boxcar. > > ROBBY: OTHER AM HOPPERS: 4 BAY (MOLDED ON GRABS CAN BE FILED > OFF AND REPLACED). 2 BAY HOPPERS CAN BE WORKED ON. Pieter: The two bay AM ribside car seems very similar to the old Athearn car, which makes it a candidate for Virginian and PRR cars. > > ROBBY: AND FINALLY YOU NEED CABOOSES! Pieter: Since few cabooses were used by more than a handful of lines, this is a tough nut to crack. Probably the most common caboose design is the Northeastern, as modeled by AF (a mixed blessing, since we do HAVE the AF body and it's a decent model, but the quantity of shells floating around preclude a newer model with the detail we expect today). The poll results are in....... To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL, to reply to the sender, use REPLY. I do NOT know if this works on all e-mail software, but it works on some of the most common ones. Change your membership, change your message settings, use our CALENDAR, view shared files or photos, view the list archives, GO TO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
