Hi Jace;

Of the cars you mention, several have been available in non-brass versions in 
S. The MILW ribsided cars and B&O Wagon top boxcar have been (and I think still 
are) available from Lehigh Valley Models as wood and card kits. One version of 
the N&W hopper was made by Kinsman. The X-29 was offered as an epoxy cast kit 
by @#$% Trainstuff under Wayne Pier. More recently, Jim King offered the B&O 
round roof car as resin kit, with more accurate detail than the old Custom 
Brass version, and S Helper is doing the N&W hopper in plastic.


Pieter E. Roos


--- On Mon, 11/8/10, JGG KahnSr <[email protected]> wrote:
<SNIP>
> My long-standing thesis is that there are at least a
> half-dozen distinctive prototype freight cars which were
> routinely interchanged during the steam/early diesel era so
> many of us favor, and that a serious modeler of that period
> ought to have at least one each: MILW ribside, B&O
> wagontop, PRR X29, N&W peak-end twin hopper, and, of
> course, the GLca (others would occur to me if I thought a
> bit longer).  A much shorter list than the long-running
> series Ted Culotta has done in RMC, but probably sufficient
> for smaller operations.
> 
> As I was suggesting, these were hard enough to find in O
> scale: ribsides were made in kit form many years ago by
> Lobaugh and Graceline (embossed card sides) and more
> recently in urethane bodies by Ted Schnepf; Ted also has
> released a wagontop in urethane and Weaver is promising a
> mass-market one later this year (years ago Walthers and
> Lobaugh offered wood kits for a slightly different class);
> FINALLY Atlas paired with Middle Division to produce
> mass-market models of the X-29 and H-21 (Walthers had a wood
> and lead casting kit many years ago, and Des Plaines offered
> a very limited run of urethane kits for the former). 
> IMP imported both the N&W hopper and a wagontop from
> Japan in the 1950's, but both need work to look right, and
> Ambroid/QC offered a nice wood and whitemetal kit (actually
> also offered in S scale--I was able to buy one at Duluth),
> and many, many years ago RailCraft had a semi-kit produced
> in Missouri.  That's it.  Everything else for
> these very common cars, even in O scale, means expensive and
> often hard to find brass.
> 
> The reason I have taken so much band-width is really not
> unrelated to S scale; if these are so hard find in O
> scale--which is what, ten times the market of S scale? 
> Twenty times?  Fifty times?  Some of these have
> been offered in S but so far as I can tell, all as brass
> imports.  One cannot blame the manufacturers when the
> market is still so small.  If S scale were my primary
> interest, life would be even more difficult if I had to find
> examples of these very common prototypes for a
> representative railroad model.  I guess I'm glad I
> don't, and I really don't have a good solution to this
> problem, just stating what I see as a problem.
> 
> And closing the circle on this, I'd agree that serious PRR
> modelers would want at least a few GLa's, but I'm not so
> sure the rest of us feel the same sense of urgency.
> 
> Jace Kahn
> 
> General Manager 
> Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.



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