Just looking in for my daily (or less) hour of e-mail time.I've experimented 
with a dozen or more AF conversions in the less than three years I've dabbled 
in S scale,generally satisfied with the results, although the novelty is 
wearing thin by this point (I didn't get into S scaleto spend lots of time 
building, as my primary interest remains O scale--where I have LOTS and lots of 
projects).
The twin hoppers are among the easier and more gratifying conversions, as they 
are pretty close to the AARoffset side prototype.  I think I browsed through an 
S Guagian issue six months or so ago with an article by Rusty Rustermeieron 
various conversions; a good dozen years ago Bill Wade had an extended article 
in the S scale magazine heowned at the time on detailing and converting a twin 
hopper to a woodchip car that looked very nice (he mayhave used an AM twin, but 
the detailing would still apply).  I use Ace bolsters and trucks, a few extra 
wiregrabirons (one of the weaknesses of the AF casting is the heavy corner 
grabs and stanchions for the toy trainmarket, but apart from a bit of thinning, 
to replace them is more trouble than I find it worth, although perhapsone could 
use AM ladders, available from Ron Bashista), and a bit of styrene sheet to 
extend the brakestep, whichin unconvincingly shallow (I do that for the same 
reason on some of the AM twins, too).  I've replaced the brakelever low-relief 
with AM brakewheels on some of them and am considering installing the AB gear 
under the slopesheet when I have time to develop a drilling jig for the center 
sill.  Diagonal bracing at the ends would be nice,but, again, more trouble than 
I want to invest in the conversion, since I have plenty of much-nicer SHS 
hoppers.Converting AF three-bays would be much the same, although, of course, 
the brakewheel installation is mandatory.So far as I can tell, the three-bays, 
being a later addition to the line, are less easy to find (and often more 
expensive)than the two-bay; someone a number of years ago reportedly bought 
lots of three-bay bodies directly from AF andresold them for some time with Ace 
bolsters--I bought two at S Fest where Jeff Madden was selling the Chuck 
Portercollection.  Obviously the later hoppers with holes for their trucks will 
need coal loads to conceal them.Paint and reletter with CDS sets.  The new 
owner of the Downs line offers a conversion package with just abouteverything 
one would need.
Next easiest, in my experience, are the 40' gondolas, even though prototypes 
are more elusive.  Grind off hideoustruck mounts and either fabricate 
replacement bolsters from styrene or use the Ace flat bolsters, add trucks 
andbrake gear, possibly replace the brake lever.  Rebuilding the underframe is 
optional.  I generally plug the oversizeAF coupler cutout under the endsills 
with styrene.
Next are the flatcars: grind off the truck mounts and cover the deck (and all 
the holes) with Evergreen scribedsheathing, notching for the stake pockets.  
Probably the underframe needs replacing; someone provided a hotlinkto the OGR S 
scale forum a few weeks ago, and one of the members there posted images of a 
scratchbuilt flatcarwith a styrene underframe that would work equally well for 
an AF conversion.  Brakewheel of your choice on wire staff.
I've done a couple of the older yellow AF boxcars, which are a decent 
representation of the 1932 ARA prototype.  Ace trucksand cast replacement floor 
with brakegear, brakewheel, corner stirrups (I used AM's), repaint and letter.  
I am currently (stillsitting on the workbench, as I've not done any modeling in 
weeks) trying to see how that works with a working door boxcar,but that has 
turned out to be more work than I can justify for a conversion, what with 
replacing the stamped steel door guides).I doubt I shall do any others.  The 
plug door refrigerator cars, which used essentially the same dies with some 
replacements,don't look bad; I started one and the hardest part was trying to 
figure out a convincing prototype--so far best possibility isBREX.  Probably 
won't do any more of those, either.
Tankcars are the least worthwhile conversions, as the proportions of the tank 
are wrong and the frames are clunky; otherlist members reported recently that 
they shortened the tank and rebuilt the frames, even replaced the dome, but, 
again, that seems like a lot of work for a sow's ear.
Jace Kahn

General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.





> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:10:22 +0000
> Subject: {S-Scale List} A Few Photos...
> 
> I just downloaded a couple of snaps of a project I've been playing around 
> with.
> 
> It's my intention to convert a bunch of AF rolling stock I have to as "scale" 
> as possible. My reasons are thus:
> 
> I already have a fair bit of Flyer on hand, and although the die work is not 
> a good as the newer, scale stuff, I think it'll do for the time being, as I 
> gather more of the scale offerings that are now available. 
> 
> As a relative newcomer to 'S', it seems that this "new age" equipment is 
> fairly expensive, and, as I have lots of other interests, I'd like to keep my 
> costs as low as possible. Plus, for the most part, the more common Flyer 
> stuff can be had for next to nothing, so what the heck?
> 
> My first step is to get them "road worthy"; new trucks, (frames as necessary) 
> and Kadee couplers. Then I'll start in with the detailing; handrails, brake 
> systems, etc.
> 
> I hope this is "scale" enough to be worthy of this group, as I know the focus 
> of this forum is not American Flyer.......
> 
> Mark in Oregon
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