Black Beetles come in both powered and unpowered versions.  The powered 
versions are completely self contained with their own motor and electrical pic 
kups.  They come in a variety of wheelbases and gauges.  Check em out at 
waterfront.net.au

Jim Martin



>________________________________
> From: David Engle <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:15:01 PM
>Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Black Beetle (sp?)
> 
>
>  
>Are we looking at one truck being powered?  Why not both. What would it be 
>like to have a gas-electric car, one or two trucks powered.  Is it possible to 
>vary the distance between the axles on such a truck?  
>
>
>Dave Engle
>
>--- On Mon, 1/14/13, trainsjeep88 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>From: trainsjeep88 <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Black Beatle
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 9:02 PM
>>
>>
>>  
>>Hi,
>>Thanks. Maybe not what is needed for a Miller???? The Millers I bought with 
>>Beveridge conversions are not great for pulling power. The Millers with 
>>original power are fun but are not very controlable speed wise. I do like the 
>>old Millers. Thanks again.
>>
>>Stan Houghton
>>
>>--- In [email protected], Jim and Cheryl Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Stan.
>>> 
>>> I bought a couple of powered Black Beetles for a brass  Westinghouse 
>>> freight motor I hope to assemble one day.  For their light weight and tiny 
>>> motor, they're very smooth runners and totally self contained.  The 
>>> gentleman at Steam Era Models in Australia may be a bit cautious but 
>>> they're basically listed as light duty items with a recommended total 
>>> weight loading of about 3-and-a-half ounces
 per bolster.  Thus the total suggested loco superstructure weight would only 
be 7 ounces.  They'd probably take more weight but with no guarantees.  Hope 
this helps
>>> 
>>> Jim Martin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >________________________________
>>> > From: trainsjeep88 
>>> >To: [email protected] 
>>> >Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:56:53 PM
>>> >Subject: {S-Scale List} Black Beatle
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> >  
>>> >Any one ever use one of these to power a Miller diesel? If so, how much 
>>> >trouble to mount? How much power for pulling?
>>> >Stan Houghton sbh38@...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>> 
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