Excellent reply Ed!  Look forward to the videos.
Rance Velapoldi (Tranby, Norway although currently in Alabama)

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Edward Loizeaux <[email protected]>wrote:

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> >> Looks like a step backwards to me, much like the twin motored O scale
> toy
> train drives that O scale modelers hate? <snip>....DaveBranum****
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> >> in O scale, the problem isn't the drive
> as much as using the wrong gear ratio, so the 3R trains can still run
> 150-200
> SMPH like the old Lionel trains did. All depends if you operate toy trains
> or
> scale model trains.
> Butch Holtgrieve****
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> Gents….****
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> I hate to disagree with a couple of train buddies, *BUT* the new AF locos
> by Lionel will change your minds about vertical motors mounted directly
> onto a truck.  Lionel’s newest creations, the Y-3 and SD70, both have two
> small motors mounted directly to trucks.  So how do they run?****
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> At the recent O SCALE WEST + S convention, both locos ran on my layout for
> the layout visiting tourists.  They both operated on DCC.  I must say they
> ran as well as any other loco S scale has seen to date.  They started
> smoothly, ran slowly, pulled a lot (heavy weight), and were quiet.  Simply
> put, I could not find fault with them.  The Y-3 pulled about 40 plastic
> hopper cars up a grade without breaking a sweat.  I suspect another 40 cars
> could have been added to the train without much difference.****
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> So why are my experiences so different from those of my buddies?  Here are
> some clues that may be helpful to others.  ****
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> 1.  When running on DCC, add considerable momentum.  With momentum, motor
> performance is significantly improved and much smoother – especially at
> startup.****
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> 2.  Top speed can be limited by a CV setting.  The decoder can be
> instructed to control the top speed to something very realistic.  Not a
> problem.****
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> 3.  Gear ratios are slowly being improved.  The first production run of
> the U33C had a faster gear ration than the second production run.  Lionel
> moves slowly, but in the right direction.****
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> If you are even remotely interested in a steady stream of
> SSL&S-converted-to-scale locomotives, you should investigate the products
> coming from Lionel’s factories.  In just two short years, Lionel has
> released three (count ‘em!) newly-tooled locos from scratch – each of which
> can either be purchased with scale wheels or converted to scale with some
> effort.  (Or contact Fred at SSL&S)  I hope that MTH can do as well.  That
> would be super.  ****
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> To help with your investigation of Lionel locos, the S SIG will soon have
> photos and video clips showing the Y-3 and SD70  locos in action.  And, a
> product review or two are in the works also.  All this will be posted to
> the S SIG web site when completed and released.  ****
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> Cheers…..****
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> Ed Loizeaux****
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> Sscale.org****
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