I have a #714 link coupler 'modern' log car with the black diecast base and 
gray tipping platform and the original logs that I received as a boy around 
1950. The logs are 7/8" dia. x 5-1/2" long hardwood dowels. My #714 car 
throws the logs off with vigor when activated. The #751 'tinplate 
monstrosity' log loader from the 1940s and early 1950s handles these logs 
just fine.

I never had a log loader as a boy, and when I got a #751 as an adult I found 
that the five vertical stops along the backside of the 714 car were not high 
enough to keep the third log from bouncing off the back of the car when 
loading it. Thus I reluctantly got and used the yellow #717 log cars on my 
home and our club layout as Chuck noted. I don't think they look as good as 
the #714 -- but they work. Incidentally the #751 Log Loader is a real crowd 
pleaser at train shows. The solenoid that drives the lifter really flings the 
log up with a satisfyingly loud clunk that makes nearby people jump if they 
are not watching and sometimes if they are. You usually get a lot of startled 
smiles when you load that first log.

When making reproduction logs for the cars, I found that it took repeated 
alternating staining with a brown (like dark walnut) and I think a black 
(tie) stain to get the color of the original Gilbert logs. Just the side of 
the original logs was stained. The ends were natural -- logs were probably 
cut to length after the dowels were stained.

Incidentally, Winross made a 1/64 scale log truck back in the 1960s which 
will carry three 3/4" dia. logs. Unfortunately these trucks are rather pricey 
today, but someone bought the castings to assemble the log trucks at the 
Winross auction a few years ago. They have offered the log trucks since then 
at a more reasonable price. In addition Joal makes a 1/50 scale tractor with 
'log grabber' on the front that is a perfect fit for the Gilbert 3/4" or 7/8" 
logs. These make excellent accessories for the "O" gauge #751 'tinplate 
monstrosity.'

Roger Delthony


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