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Lindsay Korst asked:

> Hi GNGOATers...
>
> Okay, basic question for the diesel-gurus among us...
>
> Did the Great Northern F-7's (okay and P-7's) have dynamic brakes?...
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Lindsay,

As a general rule (there are always exceptions), GN's freight F-units had
dynamic brakes, passenger F-units did not have dynamic brakes.  Also, as
a
general rule, and there were numerous exceptions to this, freight F-units
had single headlights and passenger F-units had dual headlights.

Hope this is what you were looking for.

Cheers,
Kert Peterson

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Subject: Re: Depot Colors

Goats:
For those of you who were discussing the colors of depots and 
other line side buildings of the Great Northern, I have done some 
research on this subject.

>From Reference Sheet No. 135 of the Great Northern Railway 
Historical Society, dated June 1988, I have found the following 
information on page 7, lower right hand corner;

1.  1913.  Corrspondence between GN personnel and R.C. 
Stephens, Architect of the Frisco Lines indicate that the "Frisco 
Standard" was adopted about 1913 by the GN, consisting of a light 
body with a dark olive trim.

2.  8-4-1918.  Communication between Louis Hill to Ralph Budd 
refers to a standard of "yellow-buff with green trim", confirming the 
above mentioned light body with dark olive trim.

3. 10-18-1944.  Communication from Frank Gavin to a stockholder 
disclosed that colors for depot and section buildings had been a 
light gray with lighter trim for some years.

4. 8-27-1968.  Correspondance between J.W. Hayes and B.G. 
Anderson, and between Robert Downing and Frank Perrin indicated 
that the standard depot colors had been white body with green trim 
for several years. Other sources indicate that this color scheme 
came into use just after World War II.

So, depending on the time frame that you are modeling, these are 
the colors you should use for your depots and section buildings of 
the GN.

These reference sheets are well researched, commonly with 
documentation by GN papers and correspondance between GN Ry 
officers and employees.  They are peer reviewed by a staff of GN 
historians who know their stuff. 

Reference sheets are an excellent source of accurate information 
for modeling and other uses.  It pays to hang onto the reference 
sheets as they come out, keep them in a single collection and in 
good order. Replacements are available for a while - but who 
knows?  

If you are not a GNRHS member, but a student or modeler of the 
GN, this is an excellent reason to join and keep your membership 
up to date.  You'll never know what you might learn about the good 
ol' GN from authoritative sources; the GN guys - the Goats!

George Maher
GNRHS member

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Subject: On This Date

Dear Goats,

We all know the 3 named Locomotives of the GNRY, those being, the William
Crooks # 1, Hustle Muscle # 400 and finally Marathon # 2517.

It was on this date in 1925 that GN P-2 # 2517 made its famed Silk Train
run to St.Paul and then returned to Seattle on the Oriental Limited, thus
earning the name " Marathon."

One of Marathons sister engines is the one at Pasco, Washington, the #
2507...Bax...

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